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Much debate goes on about this one. We find it amusing to read what the Internet myths say about what horsehide can do. There is no scientific test that we know of that has been done that can prove one is better than the other. Which
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Horsehide is not as readily available as cowhide, we eat more cows than horses. In other words, using the supply and demand principle, horsehide will be more of an investment then cowhide when it comes to your holster. Vegetable tanned horsehide is extremely firm-grained, dense and water repellent. And one of the more notable properties of horsehide is its natural ability to repel moisture. This is due to the dense cell structure of the hide. This natural ability to repel moisture makes it very useful for certain applications, particularly for use inside the waistband or if you were going to be exposed to an excessive amount of water, moisture, body fluids and humidity. Unlike cowhide, horsehide's non-porous dense nature reduces its ability to fully absorb the molding solution during the forming process, making it much more complex to get good detail of the weapon, but it can be done if you have the skill. Some holster makers claim horsehide can't look as good as cowhide after the molding process. We disagree with them 100%. With High Noon Holsters' special forming process it can be done and look just as detailed as cowhide. {Click here for Picture of Horsehide Holster} Also horsehide tends not to absorb the dye as well as cowhide. That's why you see many horsehide holsters sold as natural finish only. The firm grain texture that you will see in a natural finished horsehide holster is considered part of the beauty of the material and attests to its authenticity. When horsehide is dyed black it hides allot of the beauty of the material but has a look all its own with dull spots and shiny ones. A good picture of that is here http://www.highnoonholsters.com/Product_Line/_Double_Take/Rear_Double_Take_Black_Cowhide/Rear_Double_Take_Tan_Cowhide/Rear_Double_Take_Black_Horsehi/close_up_double_ take_black_horsehide.html We recommend the natural finish highly. Some makers also claim the stitching will wear out faster on a horsehide holster because horsehide is so hard that the thread sits on the surface of the holster where it is easily damaged, unlike cowhide which is just soft enough to allow the stitching to be pulled tight below the surface, where it is protected from abrasion. If you are using a quality thread it doesn't matter. And if you do believe it and are worried, our stitching is guaranteed for the life of the holster, cow or horse. The bottom line is, Horsehide is more difficult to get and work with than Cowhide. Most holster makers will not touch this material and do not want to carry horsehide, they do not want to work with the material. Also, its not a big money maker, lots of waste and a cemetery full of products that do not turn out good . From past history thruout the web even if one does put it in their line, eventually it gets discontinued because of not being able to make a profit on it. We understand, the material kills the sewing machine needles, dulls them and breaks them quickly, puts more stress on all the machines being used ( its a dense, dense, hard material), and its unpredictable in the manufacturing process. Also it takes more skill to sew horsehide and harder to get a good mold on the holster. We have a grave yard full of them that did not come out right. Sometimes its not at all profitable. But from the consumer end horsehide has some extraordinary properties cowhide doesn't have. So which material is better? Well, you can't deny there are more famous horses then cows. How can you beat Mr. Ed, he even spoke English, a plus in our book! And don't forget about Black Beauty. And HEY we never seen a cow in a merry go round. We can't even think of a famous prime time cow. Anyway, enough nonsense, we like the horsehide for inside the pants holsters better because of its water repellent properties and makes a slightly stiffer holster then the cow. That's not to say cowhide is inferior for inside the pants or makes a soft holster, its stiff, just not as stiff as horse. Now some people hate that never ever break in feel from horse, but that's the material. Outside the pants they are both excellent materials. It all depends on you and the application the holster will be used for. You can not go wrong with either choice. This needs to be treated as an exotic material like shark or gator skin and is a personal preference issue. You may not need it but it sure would be nice to have. If you do not own a horsehide holster try the material , you will not be disappointed!
Our holsters are designed for use by professionals and others who carry a handgun consistently. The act of drawing your pistol from a holster creates friction at the points of contact, and eventually those points will begin to show signs of wear. For that reason it would be unfair to expect that your personal sidearm will remain in new condition forever. A lined holster is a way to simply delay the inevitable, which is holster wear. If you practice hard, your guns' finish will
wear, lining helps retard the process. Our lining is made from a material that is produced exclusively for High Noon Holsters®. It is a special synthetic material (man made) that is super slick and has cutting edge durability. It wears in and burnishes smooth by use. The material will draw moisture from the surface of the weapon and then, dissipates it quickly into the atmosphere. Being a man made material, it has water repellent properties. Also, because of the laminating process creating a sandwich of leather, glue and lining creates a stiffer holster then an unlined version. This does not mean a unlined holster is soft, its just means when you compare them side by side, the lined holster has a stiffer feel to it. Some makers offer suede lining, in other words some animals skin, there are drawbacks to to this lining method. In our tests, most of them absorb oil, dirt and powder residue. We feel our synthetic material out classes and out performs the suede lining. We do not care if it costs more money and is more time consuming to apply, its the best and that's why we use it. High Noon Holsters® is not into cutting corners or making the most money we can from a holster. High Noon Holsters® is all about producing the ultimate best holster we can. That's why we have the reputation we have.
As you know, there are many other holster makers out there that make a similar product, thats designed a bit differently than we do. Almost all of the top shelf custom holster makers are the same page with this one. We respect each others' work and let the customer make their own decision without speaking negatively of a competitors' product in a attempt to try and convince you that ours is superior. With that said, there are some out there that do not follow this rule. Anyway before you make a decision to purchase, you must compare the quality, design, price, guarantees, return policies, what's written in published books and gun magazines and delivery time of our product with what other makers offer. When you are ready, if you still have any questions give us a call and we will be more than pleased to discuss the benefits of our designs with you so that you can make an educated decision. But our web site is second to none, 99% of the information you need is here. We have put a lot of time and effort into our web site so you can cruise around 24/7 without having that hollow feel you get from most other sites.
We build our holsters for a snug fit. It may appear the holster fit is too tight at first but this is by design. Tightness in a new holster is not uncommon and is much preferable to the alternative. If the draw is a little stiff at first, it is recommended that you work with it to see if it doesn't loosen up with a bit of use, it is leather and by simply using it the product will stretch. About 25 to 35 draws should
be a good indicator of whether the holster will break in on its own. Tension Screws If the thumbreak strap is difficult to use at first, insert a completely unloaded handgun into the holster. Be sure the handgun is fully seated in the holster. PUSH the gun in all the way so the trigger guard is stopped by the stitching. Hold the gun with your right hand, hold the strap with your left hand. Now at the same time pull the gun to the right and the strap to the left while keeping it taught. Six to Twelve times should do it. Now you are ready to try and snap the thumbreak together. Pull the strap over the back of the firearm without releasing tension, while maintaining the tension, snap the thumbreak strap closed. Right handed shooters should pull to the left while left handed shooters pull to the right. Once the thumbreak is fastened over the handgun keeping it fasten will quickly
break it in. 1. Blocking Process: First place a completely unloaded handgun into the 4 mil plastic bag that your new holster was packaged in. Then carefully insert the bagged gun all the way into the holster, do not wet or spray the holster with any solution to aid in the stretching process. Now twist the gun about 1/16" in both directions a few dozens times. Next, work the weapon in and out of the holster a few dozen times. Remove the bag and see if you like the fit. If it is still too tight, then repeat the process. This blocking out process as described above will in no way harm the detailed molding of your new holster, nor will it ruin its retention qualities. It serves simply to stretch the leather a few thousands of an inch larger then the gun. The amount of stretching time needed for satisfactory results range from a just a few minutes to overnight. 2. Kitchen wax paper: You could also try wrapping it with 1 layer of kitchen wax paper ,with the wax to the outside and seat the completely unloaded handgun fully into the holster. Now twist the gun about 1/16" in both directions a few dozens times. Next, work the weapon in and out of the holster a few dozen times. Remove the paper and see if you like the fit. If it is still too tight, then repeat the process with 2 layers of wax paper. Continue until you get it close to the desired fit. Remove the paper and do a few dozen practice draws. The holster should now be sufficiently broken in to allow you to wear it and finalize the break in process. This process as described above will in no way harm the detailed molding of your new holster, nor will it ruin its retention qualities. It serves simply to stretch the leather a few thousands of an inch larger then the gun. The amount of stretching time needed for satisfactory results range from a just a few minutes to overnight. 3. Nylon stockings: Place a completely unloaded handgun into the nylon stocking and seat the gun fully into the holster. Now twist the gun about 1/16" in both directions a few dozens times. Next, work the weapon in and out of the holster a few dozen times. Remove the stocking and see if you like the fit. If it is still too tight, then repeat the process. Continue until you get it close to the desired fit. Remove the stocking and do a few dozen practice draws. The holster should now be sufficiently broken in to allow you to wear it and finalize the break in process. This blocking out process as described above will in no way harm the detailed molding of your new holster, nor will it ruin its retention qualities. It serves simply to stretch the leather a few thousands of an inch larger then the gun. The amount of stretching time needed for satisfactory results range from a just a few minutes to overnight. 4. Kitchen saran wrap: You could also try wrapping it with 1 or 2 layers of kitchen saran wrap then seat the completely unloaded handgun fully into the holster. Now twist the gun about 1/16" in both directions a few dozens times. Next, work the weapon in and out of the holster a few dozen times. Remove the paper and see if you like the fit. If it is still too tight, then repeat the process with 2 layers of wax paper. Continue until you get it close to the desired fit. Remove the paper and do a few dozen practice draws. The holster should now be sufficiently broken in to allow you to wear it and finalize the break in process. This blocking out process as described above will in no way harm the detailed molding of your new holster, nor will it ruin its retention qualities. It serves simply to stretch the leather a few thousands of an inch larger then the gun. The amount of stretching time needed for satisfactory results range from a just a few minutes to overnight. If you feel the body of the holster is too tight, using your hands only, loosen up the seamed edges by gently flexing the holster in all directions repeatedly. This does not mean severely folding, bending or smashing the leather. Once the body of the holster starts to feel less rigid, insert a completely unloaded handgun into the holster. Be sure the handgun is fully seated in the holster. Holding the handgun by its grip and the holster with your other hand, twist the gun to the right and then to the left.
Etching It is common for the inside of a leather holster to scratch from a single holstering. A smooth leather lined holster will be even more subject to this normal occurrence, called etching. After this initial etching the holster will custom fit your handgun. Sharp Edges he break in process.
There is Nothing Like Leather! It's a delicious smell like no other, sneaking up to greet as you stand at the racks of leather at your local store. The scent almost implores you to spend money, it's an intoxicating leather smell. Leather is a product of Nature. Leather has been used by man for thousands of years. It is one of the few things that has stood the test of time because of it's practical benefits. Take a piece of leather and observe the way the fibers are knitted together. It is Nature's work. It is so wonderful that man cannot hope to reproduce it. He cannot even recreate it. Boil a piece of hide or skin. It will turn into gelatine. (Gelatin is a translucent, colorless, brittle (when dry), nearly tasteless solid substance derived from the collagen inside animals' skin and bones. Gelatin melts to a liquid when heated and solidifies when cooled again.) No power known to man can turn that gelatine back into leather. Shred it. No machine can reweave the fibers into their former wonderful fabric. Take all the chemicals which go to make up a piece of leather, and mix them in all the ways that can be imagined and man cannot make a single inch of leather. Leather truly is a one of a kind material. It's both strong and soft, it can breathe as well as insulate, it can stretch, but will not tear. With such diverse characteristics
as these, it's no wonder so many products are made from leather. Leather making can be traced back to the earliest dawn of history back to ancient Rome, and even Adam and Eve. Today, we see leather everywhere in shoes, jackets, gloves, furniture, bags, you name it, it's available in leather and of course gun holsters. As leather continues to grow in popularity, it will be available on more products and in more styles. Persons concerned about the environment and recycling should embrace the use of leather because it is a renewable resource. As long as people eat beef instead of soybean substitutes, the hides for making leather will be there as a byproduct. It's not our fault they are delicious. It would be as unthinkable to waste this resource as it would be to waste the wood scraps that are made into chip board. Another important characteristic of leather, especially in shoe making and gun holster making, is its lasting molding ability leather can maintain a new shape and
retain the valuable properties already mentioned. This Truly is an incredible "accomplishment". There you have it, why leather when we are in the 21st century? Well because there is nothing better to hold your gun till you need it to defend you and your family's lives. So get off the computer and go relax on your kydex couch.
We use synthetic thread. Synthetic thread is impervious to deterioration from the long-term effects of perspiration, UV light, chemicals, moisture and will not rot. They are far stronger and more resilient to the effects of abrasion in addition to having a higher tensile strength. Many are put off by the erroneous idea that synthetic threads have a plastic appearance. This may have been the case in the early, experimental days of manufacture. Since then, however, the industry has spent a fortune in ensuring that modern synthetic threads are equally attractive and indistinguishable in appearance from cotton. Our stitching is guaranteed for the life of the holster.
FBI tilt refers to a holster that is designed in such a manner that the grip of the gun angles forward and the muzzle of the gun points to the rear, as opposed to a neutral or vertical rake where the gun rides straight up and down. Usually the FBI tilt is approximately 15 degrees. This tilt offers an advantage in concealment keeping the butt of the grip from protruding away from the body.
Depending upon the application, we will use either standard or high tension snaps. In some cases we use "pull the dot" snaps. These are one way snaps and will only snap on and off when pulled in a specific direction. These snaps are used for additional security, when it is essential that the snap not come undone.
9. How important is it that the holster slots match the belt width? OUTSIDE THE WAISTBAND HOLSTERS Our slots for outside the pants holsters are made 1.75" to fit a 1.50" belt perfectly. You need that extra room so your expensive gun belt can slide in and out without friction. Do not be fooled by the Internet myths that you have to match the belt width with the holsters slots. This is untrue and the friction caused by this setup will prematurely wear out your expensive gun belt. If you use a narrower belt then 1.50" and want to lock it in place better, you can run the belt through a holster slot and then under your belt loop on the pants before you run it back out the other holster slot. We do this when using a dress belt 1.25" and it makes the whole thing more secure. INSIDE THE WAISTBAND HOLSTERS We size the straps on our inside the waistband holsters 1.75" to fit a 1.50" close but not exact. You need the extra room so the straps work as intended, so you can snap it over your belt. If it was sized perfectly 1.50" too 1.50" you could not snap the holster on your belt, it would be way to tight, instead you would be forced to pull your belt through the loops, which makes a snap on inside the waistband holster redundant.
to fit a 1½ belt perfect. Common sense tells you that if the holster slots are 1½ and the belt is 1½ you will tear up the top and bottom of your belt because of the friction when you put the holster on and off the belt. It's not critical at all to use a 1½ belt with 1½ slots. The belt slots on the holster has to be a minimum ¼ over sized . A difference of ¼ between the width of the belt and that of a concealment holster's belt slot is not generally significant. You need that extra ¼ so the holster goes on the belt without friction points. It will rarely move once the belt is tightened. The tighter the belt the less movement you
10 How do you draw the gun out of the Pocket Grabber or Pocket Reload. Put gun (unloaded for practice) in holster. The holster should not move upwards more than an inch. If it does, you are not extending your thumb far enough to release the gun or you are not pressing hard enough against your pants leg or the holster has to break in. It could be a combination of all three.
To break in a Pocket Grabber or Pocket Reload:
Warning – Important Consumer Information These warnings should be read prior to the use of any High Noon® products. All firearms are potentially dangerous weapons. Firearms should be kept out of the reach of children. Use of a handgun under any conditions may be dangerous. Serious personal injury or even death could occur without proper training in the safe handling of firearms by an accredited firearms safety course. No person should handle any firearm unless such person has successfully passed an accredited firearms safety program. Great care should be used when handling, storing or transporting firearms or when placing or removing a handgun from your High Noon Holster®. Never place a loaded handgun in a holster without first testing, in an unloaded condition, for proper fit with the handgun. Carrying any handgun with a live cartridge in the chamber immediately in front of the firing pin may cause an accidental discharge. Single action revolvers and some semi-automatic pistols, should be carried with the hammer or firing pin resting on an empty chamber. It is the user's responsibility to exercise extreme caution when handling or carrying any handgun and to assume at all times that the gun is loaded. Do not attempt to cock a handgun while it is in the holster. Cocking the handgun while holstered can cause damage to the holster, gun or both and may cause an accidental discharge. For information on how to carry your particular handgun, please refer to your handgun manufacturer's safety and instruction manual. High Noon Holsters® are designed to fit factory equipped handguns. The use of trigger shoes or grip adapters or any modifications to the handgun may cause improper holster fit and accidental discharge. All High Noon Holsters® are designed to function safely and are made for specific handguns. Any alteration to the holster or using a holster with a gun for which it was not made could also, render an unsafe condition. It is the user's responsibility to; personally check for holster handgun compatibility using actual products. It is also the user's responsibility to regularly check the holster and its hardware (including but not limited to, snaps and screws) not manufactured by High Noon for proper fit and function. Should any High Noon Holsters® product become worn, loose, broken, defective or ill-fitting, cease use immediately. Please be certain that your gun is securely seated in the holster before use. Keep thumb on the back of the hammer {excluding cocked and locked carry method, slide must be used} or slide when inserting the handgun in the holster to help assure that no movement occurs during insertion. Keep fingers clear of the trigger when drawing or replacing the handgun in the holster. For maximum safety, holster retaining straps must be used when provided. During vigorous physical activity, such as running, the gun should be held in place with your hand to prevent the gun from falling out of the holster. We strongly recommend a regular practice routine be utilized to assure the continued capabilities of both product and user. You must acknowledge and realize that this disclaimer is a condition of the sale of the High Noon product involved. Click here for our Guarantee !!!!
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14 Why are there some marks on my holster?
15 How do I adjust the tension screw? If your holster has a tension screw, the tension screw is not preset at the factory. You may need to loosen the tension to holster your handgun the first time, after which you can adjust the tension screw(s) to the tension you desire. We recommend you check your screws and adjustments before and during each use. There is no reason to completely remove tension unit. Some people who do not want to remember to check the screws, use Loctite 222 Thread locker or a drop of clear nail polish which may prevent it from backing out. Both are a low strength thread locker. Parts can be separated using hand tools if ever needed. But even using these methods, you should always check the screws each time to make sure everything was good to go. If you lost your tension screw you can get more here.
16 Do you make combination holsters? All of our holster designs take a great deal of time to develop and field test. It is difficult enough to manufacture a holster to perform one function correctly, let alone two! Don't be fooled by the lower quality products on the market that promise far more than they deliver. With that said, these types of holsters can work if they are designed correctly.
17 Care and Maintenance Answers Care and Maintenance of Leather High Noon's® cowhide and horsehide holsters, belts, and accessories will need minimal care and maintenance. Our products are made from natural cowhides and horsehide's that are range bred and grown. Therefore, there may be natural range markings in the grain of the hide. This is normal for top grain cowhide or horsehide and is a very desirable feature among collectors. This holster may contain range mark/marks. A range mark is a natural occurrence in the hide. It tells a story of the animal's life. It also adds to the beauty and character to your High Noon product. DO's Don't
18 What's the difference between the Bare Asset and the Mr Softy? The Mr Softy is a straight drop holster meaning it has no cant, and is a low ride holster, best worn from 12 o'clock to 3 o'clock. The Bare Asset has a cant to it and is a high ride holster that features a combat grip. It is best worn from 3 o'clock to 6 o'clock.
19 How do I choose a holster for concealed carry Choosing a holster for concealed carry will depend upon many factors. It is imperative that the weapon you choose be in keeping with your physical characteristics. If, for instance, you are very slight of build but feel the need to carry a large handgun or a wide-bodied weapon, then you are creating a set of problems that aren't going to be solved by anything as simple as a holster. The same set of difficulties may also be experienced if you have a large waist. A Surplus waistline will tend to push out and highlight any additions on your belt ,such as a sizable, holstered handgun. Don't worry. You'll find the perfect compromise among body size, weapon size and clothing style. It's a personal thing. You will need, ultimately, to invest in about two, or possibly three, holsters to cover every eventuality. For most males { and slim females } a belt holster mounted just behind the strong side hip is perfect. The covering garment drapes down from the latissimus dorsi { shoulder area } muscle and hides the holstered gun in the natural hollow of the hip. Or if you have a proportionally large waist, you may be better served with an "appendix carry" forward of the strong side hip. In other words between your belly button and the strong side hip. The appendix draw is much more natural for people with impaired mobility of elbow or shoulder. Only you can decide which holster will work best for you and the chances are, that no one single holster will meet all of your requirements. Now answer at least some of these questions below, you will have a better idea of a starting point for both a holster and a handgun. 1 Your Body: Are you tall or short? Is your torso long, regular or short? Are you thick or thin? Is the cross section of your waist round, round oval or flat oval? Do you have any shoulder mobility problems? 2 Clothing/Weather: What climate do you live in. What will you normally be wearing for clothing when you carry the handgun? Will the pants you wear help to support the weight of the handgun (jeans vs light weight dress slacks)? Do you typically wear draped or fitted outer clothing? Do you normally wear your pants fairly snug or comfortably loose? Do you have fairly large weight fluctuations? Do you wear a belt with sufficient support capabilities? 3 Time and Activities: What will you be doing while carrying this handgun? Standing? Sitting? Will you be removing your covering clothing frequently? How many hours a day will you carry? Are you seated most of the day? Are you riding in a car most of the time? Will you be removing the holster frequently during the day? 4 Concealment Level: How critical is it that you cover or conceal your handgun? Are you in Law Enforcement and just need "casual concealment" and cover? Does it matter if someone sees a "bump" in your clothing if you move wrong? Is it absolutely critical for the handgun to be completely undetectable? 5 Choice of Handgun: How long is the handgun you wish to carry? How much does it weigh loaded? Is it thick or thin? Is it fairly smooth or does it have sharp edges? Is it new or have you carried it for some time? 6 Other considerations: Have you carried a gun for some time? Where and how have you been carrying it? If you already have a holster type and cant that works well for you, what is it?
20 What is your best holster for concealed carry? Asking a hundred different shooters their favorite modes of carry will probably get you a hundred different answers. Each will swear by his or her own particular preference. And in a way they are all correct. But what works for a 6.5 225 LB person may not work for a 5.4 150 LB person. Clothes that you wear plays a big factor here also. Suit and tie every day or work boots and jeans? Narrowing the choice down to match your own particular set of needs is not always easy, so you shouldn't be discouraged if you don't get it right the first time. Very few people ever do. The honest answer is that there really isn't one. Every one of our holsters is designed for a specific application and performs admirably within the parameters of that application. Many are very strictly task specific, so any sort of general comparison would be quite inappropriate. A lot depends on body type, climate, concealment level, time, activities and weapon choice. You will need, ultimately, to invest in about two, or possibly three, holsters to cover every eventuality. Don't worry. You'll find the perfect compromise among body size, weapon size and clothing style. It's a personal thing.
21 What if my holster gets wet? DO NOT force dry it with hot air{ Like a hair dryer or an oven }, this will cook and dry out the leather. Just let it dry naturally under a fan, blowing room temperature air does a good job.
22 I got mildew and green stuff on my holster how do I get it off ? Chances are something went wrong, you did not store it right or it got wet and was not dried correctly. Anyway, to remove mildew from leather, create a mixture of one-cup rubbing alcohol per one-cup of water. Wipe the mildew area with a cloth dipped in the diluted
23 What's better for an IWB, a clip or strap? They are both good and get the job done. It all depends on what you want out of the holster.
24 What's the difference between the Hideaway and the Mister Softy? They are both the same holster except for the material used. It's a trade off .The MS is super thin, but when the gun is drawn the holster will collapse. The hideaway is thicker leather and when the gun is drawn, will allow a one handed reholster. So, if you want a super thin holster the MS is better. If you want a holster that doesn't collapse when gun is drawn the hideaway is better. Some people get both and wear MS for summer because it's so thin and The Hideaway for winter.
25 Why don't you sell Kydex holsters? We haven't found a Kydex holster that didn't scratch your weapon!!! It's a dust magnet to hold your gun in. It's a maintenance problem also. You need to keep the inside CLEAN, or you could damage the finish on your gun with dirt. They are also very noisy going in and coming out, which lets everyone know where you are. This noise or the click that Kydex fans rave about can get you in a lot of trouble. And just forget about inside the waistband carry with Kydex!!!! Don't believe a word about it. It's a painful thing to do to yourself. It's not flexible, so it does not follow your moves as well as leather. Leather or Horsehide is impossible to beat for IWB carry. It's more comfortable against the body then a HARD synthetic {plastic}. Did you ever wear a pair of Kydex shoes? This also stands for the new half leather/half kydex holsters. The kydex makers are trying to address the shortcomings of their plastic holsters. Its still kydex against your gun and the same concerns as you have just read about above. If kydex is so great why do you need leather to make it better? Hey throw some nylon in there also!!! Enough said here. Go sit on your kydex couch.
26 Why do you use full grain leather on your shoulder holster harness, when other manufacturers tend to use suede harness or nylon? We call suede harnesses the one year rig. It absorbs everything it comes in contact with , which is mostly body perspiration. Don't believe us , put a drop of water on it and see where it goes. After a while it gets a perspiration stain that smells like your under arms after you have sweated all day long. It does not come out even if its' washed. Most of the big boys on the block use full grain leather. Its' MUCH more expensive to stock than suede and has the strength to support the largest of handguns in a shoulder rig. Our full grain harness repels moisture, it will last a lifetime and will not absorb your body perspiration. Nylon is too slippery and will slip and slide on the shoulder and creates an unstable situation.
27 Why don't you stock more holsters? It is impossible for us to stock everything. We currently produce more then 36 holsters in our line, in three colors, left and right hand, lined or unlined and two different materials{Horse or Cowhide} for over two hundred semi autos and revolvers, which means that we would need to have about 90,000 holsters in stock just to have one example of each. Therefore a large part of our holster line are made up as the orders are received.
28 What do you guys recommend, thumbreak or open top holsters? We like open top holsters better than thumbreaks. They are quicker on the draw and on the reholster. The straps on the thumbreak always seem to get in the way on
the redraw. Take note here, the danger of an unintended discharge when a strap gets caught in the trigger guard is a real one, and by no means limited to a certain gun, any one of them can do it if you are not careful. Some people believe a thumbreak is safer in case someone tries to take the gun away from them. It's not safer when you need the gun in a hurry, to have to go thru a thumbreak to get to it. As we said before simple is always better. Here's the part everyone is forgetting. It's a concealment holster. It's supposed to be covered so no one knows you are carrying a gun, it was designed to conceal, rather than secure the gun. It's not like a cop's duty holster, for all the world to see. That needs to be in a secure holster. They need level 2,3,4 holsters. Most of us will not be carrying a gun for all to see. Some people also believe that if the holster does not have a thumbreak on it, the gun will fall out. This is a tall tale. Our open top holsters are molded to a specific gun you order it for and will be so tight when you get it you will hardly be able to put the gun in or get it out till the break in period is over. Also we have designed a tension screw into the holster to adjust the draw. This could be tightened down so much that the gun may not come out. Some people also believe that if you run with an open top holster it will pop out. First of all you need to learn how to run properly with any holster on, this would be the key. If you are running with a gun holster on, the first thing you should do is put your hand over the gun and holster. This serves two purposes, first one is you will be able to run allot faster without something bouncing up and down , the second would be to make sure everything stays in place{ shirt or covering garment, holster shift front to back } in case you need the weapon. You would be surprised how the shirt or covering garment bunches up right over the handle of the gun when running. This is for short distances, not miles of jogging. With all that said there are certain circumstances where you need a thumbreak (motor cycle, jogging long distances, horse back riding, mountain biking, ATV) and we make them, figure out the job you have for the gun and get the appropriate holster, for most it will be the open top. Here's a question to think about, why is it hard or almost impossible to find an inside the pants holster with a thumbreak? I think you get the picture.
29 I will be visiting Florida can I have a tour of your factory? Unfortunately, the answer is no. We also do not have a cash resister at hand, we are not setup for retail visits. We are a working factory complete with heavy duty machines. For your safety, tours or visits are not available.
30 Can I stop by and take a look at your holsters before I buy?
31 Why is your site red, distorted, dark, unclear etc. etc.
Now view a Web site with your new setting and see if it's more comfortable. If not try another setting. Don't worry, it's very easy to restore your original settings just by repeating the process. . You'll find more setting buttons on the front of your monitor. Remember it's like a TV. Every make is different, so we can't give precise directions. Look at your manufacturer's handbook for instructions. Adjust the contrast and brightness ect ect. Black should be black and not gray for instance. Then adjust back to suit your own preferences. If you monitor allows it, tweak the picture for horizontal and vertical settings so that it's perfectly central and fills the screen. Also if it's not a newer model computer with a good video card {within the last 3 years at least} there is not much that can be done.
32 Will the salts used to tan the leather attack my firearms finish? Gun holster leather is tanned using the "vegetable tan" method not the "chrome tan" method. Chrome tanned leather is what you will find in shoes, jackets, wallets, and certain outdoor leathers like that used to make Harley saddlebags or motorcycle chaps. Chrome tan leather cannot be shaped and molded like holster leather. Vegetable tanned leather, which is what we use for making quality holsters, is not tanned with any kind of salts. Vegetable tanning uses only organic substances like
live oak bark, tree bark, beets, walnut shells, clay, plant extracts or other vegetable matter containing tannins, not man made chemicals to tan the leather. Just as a comforting thought for you, perspiration and humidity will have a far more damaging effect on a firearm than any chemical traces left from modern tanning processes. Also, there are new ways now to seal the back of any chrome tanned leather.
33 How will I know my holster is ready to be shipped?
34 How will I know you got my on line order?
35 I'm not sure whether to order the right or left handed version. I am right handed and want the butt of my gun to point toward my right side while wearing the gun. I want to carry it in the small of my back and draw across, with my palm facing out.
Just try it yourself with just the gun, slip it inside your pants, you do not need a holster to test this out. Now if you buy a right handed version, as you draw, the muzzle is pointed to the ground and then comes up, around and to the side of your body, to its intended target without the muzzle ever crossing your body path. Left handed people just switch these directions around for you, its works the same way.
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36 I am from XYZ forum , why don't you advertise with us? f We are popular on all forums because our products speak for themselves. We have from time to time advertised on forums, but very selectively. High Noon Holsters® happens to be a more main stream company in the public eye. We are a full time holster making company. We are written about in almost every major gun magazine in the United States and you will see our advertisements in them. We are in the gun Paparazzi's cross hairs without advertising. Also, forums are good places to get information most of the time, we think they are a great tool, but on rare occasions we have seen wrong information posted. We do not have the man power to monitor the web, with that said it's almost impossible to have an unsatisfied High Noon customer. At High Noon this cannot happen, we have a 30 day beat it up guarantee return policy in place to insure a customer's satisfaction. If you did not like the product, just send it back, no questions asked. On top of that we have a guarantee in place.
37 Why don't you use steel to reinforce your holsters like some other makers? First of all, it's old technology that has some serious drawbacks, we used to do that 20 years ago!!! When we had NO CLUE what a synthetic was. Here are the facts, we tried steel and do not like the outcome. 2 Buffing the steel mouth band reinforcement plates to a glass like smoothness does not help either, it will not prevent the steel from eating away at the leather.
The facts don't add up for us to use steel. There are better ways to deal with reinforcing holsters than steel. If you are on the cutting edge of holster making, synthetics are the way to go, they are light in
weight, does not rust, will not let the holster mouth crush close and will not eat away the leather. We have had law enforcement agencies test our synthetic reinforced holsters against makers who use steel reinforced holsters. There is no comparison, our holsters won hands down. There are also many examples of where synthetic material has replaced steel in the world. One would be garbage cans, remember the old steel ones, They got all dented, disfigured and had sharp edges all over the
place. What type of garbage cans do you buy now? Synthetic Only !!!!! Light weight and crush resistant . The leaders in the field of holster making are using synthetics. Oh, not to mention metal detectors will find you every time, they are not just at airports anymore. And yes, we know the gun will get picked up also, but some people have to check the weapon at the door and then walk thru the detector. An example would be if you have to go into a court of law or some restricted area. So
much for trying to do the right thing and being discreet.
38 What's a good holster for a women? The Slide Guard is a best seller, for women. Ladies hips are bigger then men which tends to make the gun dig into their ribs and the Slide Guard gives a lot of protection from the digging.
39 Why don't you sell a J hook for your IWB holsters? We have tested the J hook. We HATE IT. This goes for the newer version also, a three point that attaches to the top and bottom of the belt, which addresses the original J hook's short comings. PRO'S CON'S You make the choice, do you want to know for sure only the gun is coming out and going back in, or do you want to go for more concealment and in the gravest extreme when you need that gun to defend your life, not really know if it's coming out with the holster because the clip slipped under the belt. All you are betting is your life when the gun is drawn. Just look at the two designs, you can figure it out yourself without even wearing it. Click here for pictures. Also our black clip against a black belt DISAPPEARS. You can barely notice it. Also,almost everyone these days has either a cell phone or pager attached to their belt. Click here for some pictures that will help disguise the clip.
40 Why doesn't the holster hold the gun closer to my body? Most times this is due to your choice of belt or it's the users self conscious that is at work. The holster and belt are part of a system. A cheap belt or even a double thickness non reinforced belt will allow the gun to hang outward from the body. This bulges and violates concealment discretion. It can even cause the gun to bump into things or snag on them. And before long, it becomes uncomfortable. High Noon Holsters® belts are double thickness and reinforced. If you wear our Rocky Steady belt , a piece of paper can not separate you from your holster. In other words nothing gets between me and my High Noon.
41 Why doesn't my holster conceal well? First off it may your own newbie self conscious working on you.
Do not be afraid to buy clothing that will help to conceal the gun. In fact you NEED to buy clothing that helps conceal the gun and holster combination. Here is an example. Many people have tried an inside the waistband {IWB} holster and found it uncomfortable. Of course it will be !!!! You bought the pants to fit you. Now they have to fit both you and a holstered gun. That's a tight fit, no doubt !! Here's the solution, a simple experiment. This accomplishes two things: Next Assemble a holster wardrobe:
42 Why are your magazine carriers not molded? Some holster makers do mold on the exact magazines. But where does this leave the customer? Having to buy different carriers for each different magazine that person owns. Lets say you own a Glock 19, a Sig 226 and an H&K compact. All three are staggered magazines and if you look at them closely, they are very similar. So, if you buy from a maker who molds on the exact magazine, you need three different carriers. We agree when it comes to a gun holster it has to be molded on the exact gun or it will not work properly, no two guns from different makers come that close in design, but when it comes to a magazine, we knew we could design something different that would help the customer handle the problem of buying different carriers for different magazines. So the answer to the question is, our magazine carriers, the Tie Breaker, Double Take, Single Skin, and Double Skin do not have to be molded on the exact magazines because of our double tension screw setup and the fact that most staggered magazines and single column ones are close in dimensions. What does this all mean? It means that you need one mag holder for staggered 9/40 magazines. Yes, if you own a Glock , Sig, H&K, CZ, Browning, S&W etc etc etc. As long as its a staggered 9/40 magazine , the double tension setup will work and can be tightened down so much that in some cases you won't be able to get the mags out. The same goes for single column mags and staggered 45's. So who needs the old way of doing things, molding on the exact magazine? One carrier takes care of all staggered 9/40 mags , another one does all single column mags and another one does staggered 45's. Three sizes , that's it. So, we saved you some money, go buy more guns, ammo and maybe another High Noon Holster.
43 Why don't you sell a 3 slot holster? It looks great doesn't it ? You can have a choice of a straight drop or a canted holster. In reality, you are going to adopt only one of these cants, now what you have left is a wide over bloated piece of leather. Its like buying a quart of milk in a one gallon container. Its a concealed carry holster, less is better. It is difficult enough to manufacture a holster to perform one function correctly, let alone two! Don't be fooled by the lower quality products on the market that promise far more than they deliver.
44 Why don't you make a holster with all the molding on the front of the holster? With all the molding on the front, the gun sticks out and creates a big bulge. Also if you use the holster day in and day out, with many draws for long enough, it will get a little loose. And then instead of just not liking it because it sticks out now you will hate it because it LOOSE. A picture is worth a thousand words. Look for yourself As you can see, with all the molding on the front of the holster it is less concealable. Pancake style holsters have been used for hundreds of years since the beginning of holster making. 95% of makers today are producing pan cake style holsters. There are a few holster makers touting this molding on the front design as better, a more comfortable carry, a narrower profile than ordinary pancake-style holsters, more compact and concealable. We have tested both designs and find the opposite to be true. We hate all the molding on one side, it does nothing but let everyone know there is something on your hip. Also some makers refer to this as "offset construction" . It's the same thing.
45 Why do I feel my holster shift when I move fast?
All holsters will shift as you move fast and allot depends on what kind of belt you have on. Our Rock Steady belt will support the weight of the handgun in a big way. On inside the waistband holsters 90% of the pressure holding your gun comes from the belt, we will give your pants 10%. On outside the pants holsters 100% comes from the belt. If you have a thin unsupported belt you are going to have a tough time carrying comfortable all day. Think of it this way: Think of a car accident at 20 mph, the car stops suddenly, now the contents start moving at 20 mph. But we have our seat belts on, so we get a sudden jerk but for the most part stay in place. The faster the crash the more jolt you will get, but again for the most part you stay in place. Its the same scenario with you and your holster throughout the day. You run and stop suddenly, but now the gun starts moving. The gun belt now acts as a seatbelt. Twist right or left, same thing. If you have a thin unsupported belt, the gun will shift much more than a Rock Steady supported belt like we sell. A good gun is important, and a quality holster is unbeatable, but it's a good leather supported gun belt makes the first two items work well.
46 Why do some other holster makers have two versions of the same line? Here at High Noon we do not put out a cheaper line imitating the same holsters. There are NO second lines made without the molding and cheaper components with a cut corner quick delivery time. We will not economize anything. This you see in the market because of the dealers who want a cheaper item on the shelf. Our decision was made a long time ago to manufacture a high quality line at a reasonable price. There is no need to second guess the pricing and come out with a cheaper line of the exact same holsters. It just does not make any sense and does not do you any good.
47 I got my tracking number, where's my order? Accounting is always ahead of the shipping department, so as soon as accounting has your order they will generate a UPS label and they will send it to you thru email. When you get your tracking number this does not mean your order has been shipped, but you're getting closer. In stock items are likely to ship in about 1 to 5 days depending on the day's volume, this is just a paper work process, we pick and ship in chronological order. For made to order items check the current Turnaround Times page. Please remember there may be many orders ahead of yours that have to be processed. Here is what you need to know when you get that email with the tracking number, look for the first scan which is Clearwater FL. When you see this, it means that the package has left High Noon Holsters and is on its way.
48 Why don't you sell a thumbreak for a 1911? There are a few compelling reasons why we no longer offer a thumbreak for 1911 style guns. 1. Any thumbreak holster for a 1911 gives you no protection from the ambi safety, cocked hammer, end of the slide and grip safety digging into your side. Its just plain uncomfortable and High Noon does not want to contribute to that box of holsters that you do not use anymore. Most people that complained of this problem purchased the Slide Guard and loved it because of the pure buffer it gives between you and the gun. 2. Trying to practice with a thumbreak holster is a pain, the thumbreak gets in the way, this is a common complaint. Fact is that you just won't practice. 3. The draw for most people is much slower. Most people that complained of this problem purchased an open top holster, it is faster to get the gun out and one less thing to worry about in the gravest extreme. 4. It was not a popular selling style for us.
49.My holster smells because of sweat, what do I do? A few suggestions below. 1 Spray the inside of your holster with febreeze. 2 Get an old pair of tights or pantyhose (the thinner pairs tend to leak a bit, so thicker like tights is usually better) and fill them with baking soda and leave them in the holster overnight. It will absorb odors. 3 Dust the inside of your holster with baking soda. It will absorb odors. 4 You can also put dryer sheets in the holster overnight. It will absorb odors. 5 Dust the inside of your holster talcum powder or special anti bacterial powder available at the drugstore. It will absorb the odors.
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51 What does open muzzle design mean? Open muzzle design or open bottom holster means the holster is not sewed closed. You always want an open bottom or open muzzle holster. All of High Noon's holsters are open muzzle designs. We know some look like they are sewed closed, but we feature pictures of lined holsters on the web, which give the look of being sewed closed, but they are not. A lined holster has to be sewed all around but it is still an open muzzle design. Click this link for picture of open muzzle design. Closed or sewed bottom holsters are 25 year old designs. Don't go near them. They serve no purpose except to create problems. Lets go over both designs below. Disadvantages to closed bottom holsters: 1. Lets dirt accumulate in the holster. The dirt, dust has no where to go because the holster is sewed closed.
52 What do I get, a straight drop holster or a canted holster? There
is no right answer, its what you are most comfortable drawing with. That said:
53 Missing a rivet, rivet pulled thru, rivet not installed correctly? This is a good question because its not what you are used to seeing, when it comes to a rivet. The rivet on our clip holsters is a specially manufactured exclusive rivet for High Noon Holsters. It is sandwiched between the two pieces of leather. This is done on purpose and is a manufacturing trade secret that High Noon Holsters holds along with the manufacture of the rivet. The reason why it is done this way is because in our testing, if the rivet is not hidden it will eventually wear a hole in the holster or tucked in shirt {tuckable models} A normal rivet would roll over the leather to hold the clip in place, this is exactly what we did not want, metal rubbing against the holster and or tucked in shirt. So in other words, we did not forget to install the rivet, it did not push its way thru the leather and the hole is supposed to be there. This is what our exclusive rivet looks like installed. CLICK HERE for picture.
54 Why don't you sell nylon holsters?
55 My holster/belt squeaks, creeks or makes noise, why? The fibers on the holster are compressed during the molding process. Its really a break in problem that will go away when the leather relaxes and breaks in. Also, the squeak is sometimes caused by the two pieces of leather rubbing against each other , like a holster- belt combo. There are times when it may never go away completely. Remember we are working with a natural product, its leather. Each and every piece is unique in its own way. Sometimes you just do not know why. You can try these two things.
56 Will the same gun with different size barrels work in the same holster? Getting the full size holster and putting the compact size gun in it seems like a good idea at first. You get one holster for both guns, but in reality when you put the smaller size gun in the full size holster, it's like carrying around a gallon of milk in a quart container. You will not like it. This is supposed to be a concealed carry holster, something that no one is supposed to see? OK, you are starting to get the picture. Now if you get the compact size holster and try to put the full size in it we still have a problem. The front site of the full size gun will sometimes catch on the smaller holster when drawing. This is because you are putting a gun in there that is to big for the holster. The leather does not cover the gun. So, can it be done, sure it can. After awhile will you like it, the answer is no.
57 Why don't you do custom work, I like one of your holsters but want it modified? We wish we could take every request, but no one really understands what it encompasses. Everyone thinks it's going to be $25.00 and a few minutes to make a design change. Well, we got news for you, it takes so much more than that. It's the same as if you get your car fixed, you are paying by the hour for labor and for parts, but no one seems to relate that to designing and manufacturing gun holsters. Most independent repair shops charge between $70-$90 per hour and most dealerships charge between $80-$125 per hour ( as of this writing ). So what makes a redesign of an existing gun holster any different? For High Noon To make a modification of an existing design (which we do not do) it would go something like this: Design time 90.00 per hour. Let's say .....Min 1.5 hrs maybe 2 hrs. We have never seen a change take less time then this. At least 2 samples have to be made that may not be right and have to be thrown out and the patterns have to be tweaked a bit more to be perfect. $50.00 in leather material at least. So now we are at about $2200.00 before we actually make your product. Do you want to pay $220.00 for your design change? We know the answer is no. Keep in mind it's an existing design in the line that you want something changed. A brand new design will run over $1,500. And now what if it's not what you wanted and you do not like it? We like to stay friends, this is why we do not bother with custom work unless we are going to add the product or change to the line. With that said feel free to suggest, many new ideas come from our customers suggestions.
58 Why don't you offer Non reinforced 1/4 inch double thick belts like other makers? Some makers advertise there belts as being ¼ of an inch thick. Nothing screams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Out loud ,I have a gun, then a fat over bloated ¼ thick belt and yes we think ¼ inch is too much. Its not a symmetrical look to your wardrobe. You can tell something is out of place. You are supposed to be carrying a concealed weapon? Concealed meaning so no ones knows you are armed? Why wear a belt that BLOWS your cover ? Why not have a classy belt that looks like a dress belt instead of a fat ,wide, old time, outdated looking gun belt. Hey we got news for you, being thick does not make the belt any stronger, just makes them ugly. This is a marketing myth by holster/belt makers that do not want to deal with the labor it takes to manufacture a real synthetically reinforced belt. The same thing will always happen to the belt unless you reinforce it . Its Cowhide/Horsehide/bullhide (however its marketed) leather will stretch and the fibers will break down eventually and lose its rigid new feeling. That's the nature of the material, it stretches, why do you think break-in instructions are given with holsters. The facts are the facts. The cowhide/bullhide/horsehide fibers break down unless you synthetically reinforce the belt like we do. High Noon Holsters® was the first in the industry to reinforce gun belts with a synthetic insert. Also if the belt is too thick accessories that clip to the belt do not clip on fully due to its thickness. Phones and other clipped items all fall off the belt when moving around. Not good to drop your iPhone a few times each month. Also that with certain OWB holsters, these belts are too thick to fit well in the slots for the belt. We now have copy cats or the me too's, as we expected, those are the ones that offer both belts, reinforced and non reinforced, High Noon Holsters offers one belt, a synthetically reinforced two piece belt, (in other words two pieces of leather with a synthetic insert in the middle) because it's far superior then just two pieces of whatever sewed together. Don't be fooled when a maker advertises how thick there belts are, its whats on the inside that counts. Customers describe our belts as if someone is holding or pushing the gun against their body all day. Now thats a good feeling instead of it hanging and pulling on you.
59 If I refer you guys out can I get a discount? We do not have a compensation system set up for discounts. Two reasons for this, one is it would be to hard to keep track of the paper work and the second is it becomes a big game where people refer the company out just cause they can get a discount. When you hear good things about High Noon Holsters® you know it is because of 100% satisfaction, not because they can get a discount or build up referral points for a free holster. Some makers do offer this, we feel its unfair to the consumer. In our opinion its just smoke and mirrors.
60 Why don't you make a Split Decision, Bare Asset, Mr. Softy, Hidden Ally, Upper Cut Up or Centerfold holster with an extra piece of material that separates the back of the gun from contact with the body? (like in some of your other holsters) That's a great idea, we tried it and it does not work. The leather is much to thin, it flops back and forth. The four holster lines listed in the question was designed to be as thin as possible, almost like wearing no holster at all. The problem comes in when you go to thinner leather you lose some performance from it, like being able to support the guard coming up the back of the holster.
61 Why are you posting inaccurate lead times on your web site? There are no problems with our stocking items, they ship most times in 24 to 48 hrs. The whole problem comes in when the holster has to be made to order, custom made for your gun you choose to buy, in the color you want, lined or unlined, in cowhide or horsehide, with a clip or a strap? I guess you get the picture here, Two Hundred choices of guns, right or left hand, three different colors, two different materials etc etc etc When you are done with the math, about 90,000 items to have one example of each holster. All custom holster makers are backed up for this reason. The problem with the lead times is that we would need a full time mathematician to calculate every day the seven months worth of orders in house and then calculate the current day's events. The delivery times would shrink and get bigger each day, maybe even each few hours. Thats something we can not do. There are many unpredictable things that happen every month that throw off our delivery times. Listed below are just a few.
Every month these things happen, but to what extent we never know. Numbers Two, three, four, five fall into: It would be unfair to the customer if they had to wait another 20 weeks because a mistake was made, their mistake or ours, it does not matter. So these go to the head of the line and get walked around the factory to expedite the order. So in other words custom is custom, there are problems with any holster makers process and there is always a wait for a highly refined product like a High Noon Holster®. Just take a close look at it and compare. You will be drawn back to this site and you won't know why at the beginning. After a while you will figure it out.
62 I bought a holster from XYZ company my holster dye is bleeding? Does yours bleed? No, our dyed holsters do not bleed. We are experienced manufacturers. The leather, the dye, the finish, etc etc all have to work together, if they do not get along, you have a problem. Its not normal for the holster to bleed. Amateurs, part timers and hobbyist etc etc only option when buying dye is OTC or in other words, over the counter. Whatever the supplier/distributor, has to offer. This is where most of the problems come from, they are cheap inefficient hobbyist type dyes. They are not professional grade products. They can never tweak the product to make it better because they are buying in small quantities. So they have to find a dye that they think works. We do not use suppliers or distributors, High Noon Holsters deals directly with the dye manufacture. The dye company will do whatever you want if you can buy allot of it. Let us explain, the dye may dry to slow, it may make the holster soft, it may make the holster hard, the dye could be weak in color, forcing you to double dye in two separate sessions to get a good color. All these things can be tweaked to work with a specific manufacturing process if you have the money to run your own dye lot. I want the dye to dry faster, I want the color deeper etc etc. The part time hobbyist can not do this, so they are at the mercy of the OTC market and this is why we have the problem of holsters bleeding in the industry. Not all OTC dyes are bad, they are just not as good as the ones made to a makers specifications. Sometimes when a holster does bleeds, when you first get it and then it never happens again, it's gassing out. You get that slight black rub off because it was just dyed.
This is also rare but happens. If the holster keeps bleeding something is wrong. It's like when you get in a brand new car and you smell that new car smell. Did you ever wonder 6 months later where did that smell go? Thats all the plastic/new
carpet/leather like seats etc etc gassing out. The chemicals and what ever else that were used to make those products that go into the car are coming out. And that's a good thing, you do not want to keep breathing that in. Same thing as re carpeting a room in your house, new carpet smell, paint a room, it smells for a few days. It's gassing out. In general most holster makers are a good bunch of honest people and we are sure if you bring this bleeding to their attention they will somehow correct it. As for the kitchen table warriors making holsters, thats another story. Those are the ones that take people's money and do not fill the orders at all or let the customers wait for years.when they promised a few months. The stories are on the forums, just look and you will find them. They dirty up a trade that we hold in high esteem.
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63 Why does your holster not work with another makers belt? You should always buy the belt and holster from the same maker when you can. This way you will not run into trouble. What we are saying is our holsters and belts were tested together to work as a team, we use a certain stiffener, that we felt worked, a veg tan leather thats cold pressed ( thats an in house term) that weighs XX oz's when the pressing is thru. The glue is special made for us, it has to be flexible without cracking. We could go on and on here but the point being that if you just make belts, what do you test it with and every makers products will be different. There are some makers belts that are just way to thick to work with some of our holsters. The reinforcements, leather stiffness and thickness being used will over power an already beefy holster. This has been a documented problem throughout the various gun forums. Its a guess if company ABC's belt works with company XYZ's holster. Now there are some good makers out there and most interchange with each other, but some combinations have problems. We have had belts from other makers back at our shop because customers complained that our holster did not work, would not lay close in to the body and would refuse to break in, which does not make sense. So we said, send in our holster and whatever belt you are using. When we got the belt/belts in house, we took the belts apart. On some we found the insert used as a stiffener was to stiff and the leather was way to thick. There is no way that belt is going to give at all. The belt flexed the holster so bad that it was hard to get the gun in or out and the over thick belt made the slots on the holster not lay flat causing the gun to not lay flat on the body. A major pain for the customer. Its a clear case of the belt overpowering the holster. Something like a good holster overpowering a department store belt. We all know about that one. We are not saying you can not get it to work, but we would not want to touch another makers product and they would not want to touch our holsters or belts. This is like making a cake, if two people take the same recipe and change it, you now have two different out comes. A belt is not just a belt and a holster is not just a holster. Thats not to say our belt will not work with another makers holster or vice a versa. Its just less trouble for you getting them from the same maker. They have been tested together. If it does not work they will know why, cause they did the R&D work on it. They can make it work. Again, with that said most makers interchange with each other, but there are some out there that just will not work.
64 Why do you make your most of your inside the waistband holsters with the ruff side of the leather out? We can manufacture holsters either way, ruff side out or smooth side out. But we had to pick just one way to do it for our inside the waistband holsters. Rough side out construction has been used since the beginning of time with great success. A good example would be the old west. Rough side out boots & chaps were common in the old west because they held up better at least in appearance to smooth leather subjected to the same abuse. Manufacturing with the ruff side out gives you a few big advantages. With the leather we use, the ruff side out has so much more grip to it then a smooth side out holster for inside the waistband carry. With the smooth side in to protect your gun it is now a leather lined holster, that produces a slick draw and protects your guns finish better. Ruff side out does not show as much wear and does not get scratched and dinged up like the smooth side out holsters. It just takes abuse with a better attitude. Keep in mind the ruff side out does not keep the holster in position, that's the belts job and a good holster design. We are talking about extreme hard use, with little or no signs of the holster having gone thru it, nice gripping, no slipping or sliding around the spot where the holster is on the body. Smooth side out holsters do give a nicer molded look to it, while always getting great reviews on gun forums for its beauty, but never a word said for its function. Its slips and slides compared to ruff side out holster. Many people buy smooth side out based on the looks only, but reality is, it's an inside the pants holster and you cannot show off that fancy look anyway! You need to buy because it works. The guys who draw their weapons for a living want ruff side out, it's a common request on an extreme duty hardcore holster. Our view is Ruff side out wins hands down in our tests. Click here for a picture comparison so you can understanding what we are talking about. Please keep in mind we could do it either way, but whats the purpose giving you smooth side out?
m. The squeak will be gone but then your holster will soften and be next to useless for carry.
65 Why don't you make your inside the waistband holsters sit lower? We can only design it so low before you can not get a combat grip on the gun. You need to get a combat grip on the gun fast, which means your whole hand around the gun. If you wear a low riding holster, you will not be able to get a full firing combat grip on the gun and draw in one motion. You will have to use your thumb and two fingers to get the pistol moving out of the holster and then re-grip the gun during the presentation. There is nothing wrong with that, as long as you know that information before the presentation and its slow and risky under stress. We do offer three low ride holsters for deep concealment, The Hidden Ally, the Hideaway , the Hidden Impact and the Mr Softy.
Don't worry. You'll find the perfect compromise among body size style. It's a personal thing. We all do it. 66 Why don't you break in your holsters before you send them out? It's all a matter of personal preference. Different people have different likes and dislikes, different strength and weakness, different injuries in different parts of the body. There is no way we are psychic enough to anticipate every persons preferences. So our holsters are generally made tight. Also different finishes hold differently to leather. A parkerized gun can really "stick" to new leather as opposed to a gun with a slicker finish on it. The best thing is for you to customize the break in of your holster, the way you like.
67 What does it mean when someone says I carry at 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock 5 o'clock?
68 Why does the belt stiffener stop at the belt holes? It wouldn't work well if the buckle tongue had to go through the stiffener and it would serve no purpose in the fit hole area. But, if you request the belt to be made like that we will do it, but again it serves no purpose.
69 What does the term "Genuine Leather" mean and do you use "Genuine Leather" for your holsters and belts? It is fairly common to see department stores promoting merchandise as being "Genuine Leather". The problem with using a term like "Genuine Leather" is it offers no details about specifically what kind of leather it is. Then again, maybe that's the point... In general, there are five different grades of leather: bonded, split grain, top grain, belting, and full grain. High Noon Holsters® uses full grain and belting leather. 1. Bonded leather is leather that is made of bits or scraps of leather which are then 'bonded' together into a single piece of leather. In the manufacturing process, this type of leather may be made to look like a single piece of leather, but it lacks the strength of a single piece of hide. Another comparison you may relate to is real wood and then particleboard, or particle board. It is an engineered wood product manufactured from wood particles, such as wood chips, sawmill shavings, or even saw dust, and a synthetic resin or other suitable binder, which is pressed and extruded. 2. Split grain leathers are the next grade up. Manufacturers typically split hide into the outer most and inner most layers. The inner most layer of hide that is produced in this process is called split grain leather. Because it is a single piece of hide, instead of multiple pieces bonded together, split grain leathers offers more strength and better life than bonded leather. When something is labeled "genuine leather", it is typically a split grain or bonded material. 3. Top grain leathers are made of the outer most layer of the hide, processed or sanded to hide serious imperfections in the leather. Top grain leathers are stronger than split grain leathers because this outer layer of the hide is the most durable. Top grain leathers may be formed in the manufacturing process to look like exotic skins such as alligator or ostrich. In other words imprint a design into the leather. 4. Full grain leathers are made of the outer most layer of the hide. Unlike top grain leathers, full grain leathers are not sanded or processed; rather, the beauty of the natural markings are left untouched. In general, full grain leathers are preferable because they offer a combination of strength, durability and appearance. Though full grain leathers are generally preferred for their strength, appearance and durability, they are generally more expensive than other grades of leather. Depending on the tanning process, full grain leathers can be manufactured to look and perform very differently. 5. Belting leather gets its name from its original application; belting leather was manufactured to drive pulley belts in early industrial plants. Special care in the tanning process makes belting leather one of the stiffest and strongest leathers.
70 Why don't you expand the business to produce faster? If you want the highest level of leather craftsmanship, you have found the right holster maker. High Noon Holsters® has a cult like following when it comes to gun gear. The guys who draw their weapons for a living use our holsters. The problem is that we like to produce a holster that we would carry ourselves, not just a holster that makes us money and we decided long ago mass production is not possible with most of our holster lines. More inexperienced hands helping does not keep the quality high. You will not see the type of quality gear we produce in mass production. We are artists in leather gun holsters. We won't apologize for longer lead times because of the time it takes us to do high quality work, thats just the way it is. We do have many in stock items if you need something now, which get the job done and work great. Stock Items are listed in bold red letters and it says STOCKING ITEM. Also, customers tend to blame us for the copy cats. They say we should just hire more people to keep up with the demand so that the copy cats wouldn't have a foothold in our product line. They think that any person should be able to make holsters and since their isn't any shortage of people on this planet, they don't understand why we
aren't willing to add the number of people necessary to our staff to keep up with the demand for our holsters. The problem is, that most of our customers don't want their holsters made by some inexperienced person that doesn't understand the intricacies of what we do, or why we do it. So it stands to reason that those who do understand
why they have to wait for our product, appreciate the fact that we care about quality over quantity. And that hiring all the people we can find isn't going to solve the supply problem. At least to the satisfaction to those who know what we are all about.
71 Do you finish the interior of your holsters? Yes, we do. We spend a good amount of time finishing the inside of your holster, it's just as important as the outside. For those that are extremely particular about the finish on their gun, you will be happy to know most of our inside the pants holsters are lined with smooth leather. We construct a ruff side out holster for its gripping properties and leather line the inside so its gentle to your guns finish. Outside the pants are lined with synthetic suede.
72 Should I get suede lining on my outside the pants holster? It does not need it to function. But if you want the ultimate interior then go ahead and get it, you will not be disappointed. More lining info here.
73 How tight should the tension screw be? There is no correct answer here, people have varying degrees of strength. What feels good to one person does not feel good for another. Most of the tension will be coming from the belt when the holster and gun are being carried. Some people make the mistake of setting the tension too tight. The tension screw should hold the gun in the holster snug, while allowing you a comfortable draw. You will need to find a good combination of the two so you are comfortable drawing. You may want to put a drop of non permanent loc tite or clear nail polish on the threads after you are comfortable with the setting. This will prevent the screw from backing out. We do like you to check the holster before each use but we know some will not do this. We sell extra tension screws here. http://www.highnoonholsters.com/Accessories/accessories.html
74 What if I get my holster wet? Remove the gun and allow the holster to air dry slowly with any type of fan. Do not use forced hot air, like from a hair dryer. That will dry out and shrink the leather.
75 Are there advantages to a pre-curved belt? Some manufacturers make their belts pre-curved to fit the body. The claim is that they are more comfortable this way. If we thought this was true, we would make our belts pre-curved. After a few weeks of wear, any belt will take a set or curve to YOUR specific body shape.
76 What is meant by a sight track? A sight track is a channel in the holster or a material sewn into the leather which allows the front sight of the gun to exit the holster without scraping or gouging leather as it is drawn. This is so you see your front site and not a ball of leather.
77 When do you charge my credit card? The card is charged when you place the order. Our Turnaround Times page and our Order Status page has lots of information on the process.
78 Why doesn't my holster have a silky smooth draw? Its a friction fit holster, it will never slip in and out with ease, its not supposed to. The gun is rubbing against leather. Your belts tension also plays an important part in how the gun comes out of the holster. The belt flexes the holster which puts tension on the holster. Its never going to be an everything holster, what we mean by that is, you want it to slip in and out silky smooth on the draw and then when you are jumping a fence or get knocked down or attacked you want the gun to stay in the holster. What we really need here is a computer chip inside the holster that reads your brain waves to evaluate the current situation. That technology is not yet available, so to tight a holster with a slight drag on the gun is good. You also have to figure in the gravest extreme, adrenaline is pumping thru your body and you will not even feel any drag at all.
79 Why does your holster move my slide back on my gun when I reholster? Its a friction fit holster, it will never slip in and out with ease, its not supposed to. When you reholster your thumb should always be on the rear of the slide holding the gun in battery and pushing in. This is so the user has complete confidence that the gun is ready to go. You should do this on any holster you have not just a tight or new one. Its a good practice to get into.
80 How important is it to be able to reholster your gun with one hand? For police officers you might be putting your gun away to cuff a suspect, dragging your partner, opening the door to your cruiser or transitioning to your long gun. The basic idea is your other hand is probably going to be busy doing other things. This isn't for the range it is for a dynamic firefight or combat situation. ,If you are going to a shooting class or if you like to practice, that would be an important feature to have on your holster. For the average civilian, in a self defense situation you may not need it, you will be shooting and calling 911 letting them know you are the good guy and surrendering your weapon upon arrival. But there may be a few situations where one handed reholstering may save the day. It may be nice for the police to come on the scene without a gun in your hand. So, you might like the idea of putting your gun away after shooting. Also, you might be grabbing a child and moving away from whatever you just shot, or keeping your hand on your new found hole in your body the bad guy just gave you, locking a door or doing several other things with the free hand on your worst day ever. Some people will have you believe you need one handed reholstering or you are ill equipped and thats just not true. Every person has different likes and dislikes, some cannot wear an extreme duty holster that has one handed holstering capabilities. They need a thin simple holster that just holds the gun in a stable platform when they need it. With all that said you could just stick the gun in your waist band and not worry about getting it back in the holster, that will work till the cops get there. So it all comes down to personal preference and the job you need the holster to do. The truth is you will have both holsters in your collection, some will be able to do one handed reholster and some will not.
81Which width belt do we recommend? If you have a choice, we suggest using a 1.5" wide gun belt to attain the best possible holster support. If you have to use a 1 ¼ cause of dress clothes, this will work but the 1 ½ gives more support
82 Is a horsehide holster thinner then a cowhide holster? Here at High Noon Holsters®, different holsters call for different weights/thickness. When it comes to High Noon, outside the pants holsters are heavier then inside the pants holsters, only because we want them to be that way. If its the exact same holster, horse or cow, lined or unlined, they will be the same weight in ounces.
AA thumb break is a retaining strap secured by a snap and released by a pushing motion of the thumb. A thumb break usually secures the weapon in the holster by means of a strap going over the hammer, or rear of the gun. A thumb break should release with a quick, positive, crisp, motion that doesn't have a "spongy" feeling or require any excess motion. To achieve this, we reinforce a piece of steel to the thumb portion of the break. High Noon does not sell many of these.
84 Where should I carry my gun? Carry position and angle differ from person to person. There is no correct answer to this question. There is no one spot thats best and they can change, you are never
locked in to one location. The best advice is to experiment as much as you can. Once you find where the firearm best conceals on your body, is most comfortable and you can draw with good speed then practice as much as possible
85 Why don't you list your leather suppliers like some of the other sites I have visited? Well .............. because we are a professional company that is confident in the product we produce. What listing leather suppliers on your web site has to do with the design and manufacture of gun holsters we do not know! This behavior, most times comes from new companies, "the part timers," inexperienced people, or just a small "me too" business trying to gain your hard earned money by telling you where they get there leather from, thinking that makes a product and company creditable. Well it does not. Remember, this is the world wide web where all you need is a computer, a garage, one dollar and your in business. We are in a very "copy cat" industry. We think as a consumer you are smarter then that. You have the web in front of you, find out who you are doing bussinesss with.
86 Why don't you make a combination holster with leather and kydex? That's the latest fad holster we will not contribute to. It's still a piece of plastic that will scratch your gun and make noise on the draw and reholster. The kydex just does not make a good holster. It's hard on your gun finish and the kydex makers realize the material has short comings. That's the reason for the combination holster. But the combination holsters still fall short, no matter what you read on the forums. Leather was created to cover. It is a product specifically designed by nature to cover the bodies of animals. Leather has been with us for thousands of years and will be available for many more years to come. It has a unique capacity to endure the elements and hence has the ability to last where other materials would just fail. Leather is one of the worlds most adaptable and pleasing materials. It offers unsurpassed satisfaction and endurance in a variety of impressive finishes, textures and colors. When most people see leather, their first reaction is to touch it. The Natural Characteristics of Leather Real leather is a natural product. It breathes, is warm and has individual characteristics which make each hide unique. Leather will always bear the marks of its natural origin and these characteristics can show as healed scars, growth marks, areas of differing fibre density and hair pore structure. These hallmarks in no way detract from the wearing qualities of the leather. They are signs discerning owners cherish when buying leather. With the passing of time and use, it develops a patina (An industry word we will explain below) which enhances its beauty. Figuratively, patina can refer to any fading, darkening or other signs of age, which are felt to be natural and/or unavoidable. Patina is everything that happens to an object over the course of time. All these things add up to create a softer look, subtle color changes, a character. Patina is built from all the effects, natural and man-made situations in our factory, that create a true piece of art, a High Noon Holster®." Growth Marks and Veins - These are an indication of the age of the animal and in that respect are similar to the graining on a piece of timber. They range from often quite pronounced marks in the neck area to subtle bands across the hide perpendicular to the backbone. Scars - These form usually as a result of barbed wire damage or by the horns of other cattle. In their healed form the new skin is as strong as the remainder of the hide but unhealed damage should be avoided as tension on these parts may cause the leather to split or burst. Grain Variation - The fiber texture varies greatly from being loose in the belly and flank areas to being relatively tight across the backbone. The looser areas consequently have more stretch. This is the area by the animals belly. Holster makers do not use this, its much too soft. The variation in hair pore structure is particularly noticeable in untextured leathers where clusters of open pores can sometimes be seen. Shade Variation - No two hides are alike and due to the varying grain structure mentioned above the dyes and finishes penetrate to differing degrees in different parts of the hide to give an attractive variation. While every attempt is made to achieve uniformity this is not always possible and sometimes not desirable. Thats why a leather holster is unique!
Contrary to popular belief, cordovan is much more than just a color. Shell cordovan is very special leather that comes from a horse's hindquarters. In this area, lies two oval pieces of leather sufficient to make just about two pairs of shoes. These hides must be slowly tanned, nourished with natural oils, shaved and then polished the old-fashioned way. Its a very rare piece of horse. We are not willing at this time to get into the custom market to this extreme.
88 Why do you use tension devices on all of your holsters and what is it for? The tension screw will allow for fine adjustments of the draw. We all have different strengths in our body, are different ages and have different injuries, so whats a sloppy draw to one, is a tight draw to another. On our wet molded holsters you do not need the help of the tension screw in the beginning, but as the holster goes thru its life it may loosen up. It also may not loosen up. No one really knows. The non molded holsters if needed you could start using it out of the box. Think of it like an insurance policy for your holster. Its for the future and maybe the present use of your holster. If you like to have more draw tension now, you have that option, if its OK then leave it alone. And as we all know and can agree with, inevitably cowhide or horsehide or any animal's hide will stretch. This fact is well documented and the tension device will come in handy to re-firm the tension on the gun to the level you want. Its sure nice to have the option of putting more tension on the draw if you need to. You can in some cases tighten it down so much that its difficult to get the gun out of the holster. A good idea if ATV, motorcycle riding or horseback riding are on the days events. With that said, its much harder to design a tension screw into a holsters design. It takes much more skill of the designer, the tension setup has to be perfect, a centimeter one way it does not work, a centimeter the other way its just too tight. So, it takes a bigger bite out of the companies pocket book in terms of samples made. It also takes at least ten times longer to get the design right. Its more difficult and time consuming in the wet molding manufacturing process, takes more money stocking the hardware and then more assembly time out the door to the customers. This is why you do not see a lot of holsters out there in the market with tension screws. Its just easier to design a holster without a tension screw. We do have many amateurs, home hobbyist and new makers who are just, to put it plainly, not talented. We feel its worth the extra money and effort to include this option on our holsters. With that said there are some small, home hobbyist and new makers that put out a decent product. The problem is the bad out number the good. Also, the tension screw has nothing to do with the fit of the weapon to holster, its job is not to take up slop because of a bad fit. It does not work well in that role. We think that information is partly due to an Internet myth anyway, but the story comes mainly from the many amateurs out there that have no clue about designing gun holsters and can't include a tension screw in the design. Remember, all you need is a computer, a utility knife, a cell phone that takes pictures and you are in business.
89 Will I have to buy bigger pants to be able to use an inside-waist-band holster? Unless you wear your pants so tight that you cannot get your hand between your pants and your body, then you may need to get the next size bigger. A general rule is if you can get your hand between your pants and your body (without your belt on) then you are good to go for an inside the waistband holster, you may not need to buy new pants. But some people find it more comfortable going a size bigger. There is no correct answer here, it depends on you. Experiment, see what works.
90 What is meant by the term full firing grip or combat grip? A good holster design will allow a full firing grip or combat grip as soon as the gun is grasped. Which means you get your whole hand on the gun and draw in one
motion, your middle finger should be just at pants level without getting in the way of your pants line. This means that you can draw your gun and comfortably fire it without having to shift the position of your hand on the gun in order to attain a more comfortable grip.
91 What type of leather do you use? Gun holster leather is tanned using the "vegetable tan" method not the "chrome tan" method. Chrome tanned leather is what you will find in shoes, jackets, wallets, and certain outdoor leathers like that used to make motorcycle saddlebags or motorcycle chaps. Chrome tan leather cannot be shaped and molded like holster leather. Vegetable tanned leather, which is what we use for making quality holsters, is not tanned with any kind of salts. Vegetable tanning uses only organic substances like live oak bark, tree bark, beets, walnut shells, clay, plant extracts or other vegetable matter containing tannins, or in other words, not man made chemicals to tan the leather. Just as a comforting thought for you, perspiration and humidity will have a far more damaging effect on a firearm than any chemical traces left from modern tanning processes. The benefit of this tannage is that it provides a leather that will not cause your weapon to rust or corrode.
92 Are all of your guns that you make holsters for on the lists? We try to constantly update the lists of guns that we make holsters for. However we may miss one of them. If you don't see your gun model call or E-mail and just ask us.
93 What gives leather its "scent"? The Tanning Oils and Chemicals used in the tanning process.
94 No matter what I do, I think people can see my gun, why is this? How often do you walk into a room feeling like all eyes are on you? Probably every room you walk into. It's our ego-centric nature to think everyone is thinking about us
especially when we know we are carrying concealed. We have news for you, most of us are too busy thinking about ourselves to have time to think about you! Don't worry what "they" think of you, because "they're" busy worrying about what you think of "them".
95 How do I store my leather holster?
96 Are there any penalties or fees to return something?
97 How often is your order status page updated?
98 Why does Appendix carry make the holster/gun push deep into my thigh when sitting to make the combo uncomfortable when sitting?
99 Does the Skin line (Bare Skin, Skin Guard, Skin Tite) offer one handed reholstering?
100 What can I do to keep my holster looking new? We have oiled it, sealed it and have done anything else that needs to be done to it before it left here. If anything, the occasional application of paste shoe polish to touch up surface wear is all that is needed on outside the pants holsters. Inside the pants needs nothing except maybe a wipe down with a damp cloth. Never use anything like saddle soap or mink oil. It will make your holster too soft. We oil them as part of the manufacturing process and that should be enough for the life of the holster. We have come to believe that there may be something to the theory of evolution. For thousands of years, tanning and maintaining leather required a lot of rubbing oils into leather. It now seems to be instinctive in humans if indeed it has not produced a new gene. Whatever you do to leather will change its appearance in some way. This, as well as normal use, will make the item uniquely yours. If the leather stays dry it will give you years of use. What really destroys leather is mold growing on the leather. It feeds on the fibers, eventually the leather goes dry and powdery similar to dry rot in wood. Just putting on oil will not repair the leather. Mold comes from damp humid conditions. You need to combat this quickly. If it gets wet and dried repeatedly, it will eventually need to have the oil in the leather restored for looks and flexibility, more oil will darken leather, but more importantly it should not be left in a damp enclosed environment where mold can grow. If it gets wet the leather needs to be dried. Remove the gun and allow the holster to air dry slowly with any type of fan. Do not use forced hot air, like from a hair dryer. That will dry out and shrink the leather |
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101 Where does most of the leather used in the world come from?
102 Why don't you ship thru the US mail?
Free materials. The post office offers free boxes for Priority Mail customers.
United States Post Office Disadvantages
UPS Advantages
103 What does Stocking Item mean? Stocking item means that we have the product, already manufactured, ready to be shipped, for the guns, magazine carriers, belts etc etc that are listed on the availability list of the page you came from. Its just a matter of paper work, getting your order through the UPS system so you can get a tracking number E-mailed to you, so the product can be shipped. Most times the product is out of our factory in about 1 to 5 days depending on the days volume . Please remember there are orders ahead of yours.
104 What advantage does having a 15 degree forward cant or 0 degree straight drop give to a wearer? First pick where you want to wear the gun. You do not need a holster to find the answer, just put it in your pants with no holster (of course unloaded) and see where you think it's most comfortable. More information clock positions here http://www.highnoonholsters.com/_Questions/_questions.html#67 Answer to the question below.
Now we can answer the question: First, lets say the 3 o'clock position is a dead heat, its goes either way cant or no cant. If its 3 o'clock to 6 o'clock, the cant is an advantage, depending on range of motion and shoulder problems for someone, the cant makes it much easier to draw from these positions. But this does not mean you can't draw from a 3 o'clock or 6 o'clock position with a straight drop, it's just easier with a cant. If it's a 12 o'clock to 3 o'clock draw, then a straight drop is an advantage, especially at 12, 1 and 2. The cant at these positions makes you have to cock your wrist to get the gun, we find it uncomfortable and unnatural. To sum this up, we like a straight drop from 12 o'clock to 3 o'clock and a cant from 3 o'clock to 6 o'clock.
105 Why does my holster move and shift thru out the day? First lets get the obvious out of the way, you need a good reinforced gun belt, like our Rock Steady Line. Our Rocky Steady belts hold the gun against your body so a piece of paper cannot separate you . With that said, it's really not the holster causing the moving and shifting. All holsters will move as you move. Its the fact that you are carrying a 1 lb plus piece of metal or polymer around on your body. Think of it like this example, you are in a car crash going 30 mph. The car stops upon impact, what happens to the contents of the car? Well, now the contents of the car starts to move at 30 mph. If the seat belts are on, you get a jerking movement. So, now lets talk about you. You are the car, your gun belt is the seat belt and your gun and holster are the contents. You do some quick bending and twisting, and get some movement because guess what, you just had a minor crash. That's what happens to you and your gun thru out the day. This is the reason you need a good belt to hold the gun and absorb most of the little jerks, turns and twist throughout your day. There will be always some type of movement depending on what you are doing but you can minimize it with a good belt.
106 Why don't you size the straps on your inside the waistband holsters perfectly? We size the straps on our inside the waistband holsters 1¾ to fit a 1½ belt perfectly. You need the extra room so the straps work as intended, so you can snap it over your belt. If it was sized perfectly 1½ too 1½ you could not snap the holster on your belt, it would be way to tight, instead you would be forced to pull your belt through the loops, which makes a snap on inside the waistband holster redundant. There are some makers who force you to do this, but these are the amateur designers.
107 Why is there fuzz on my gun from your holster? You may experience "fuzz" all over the trigger guard, trigger, ejection port and in the end of the barrel. Keep in mind Minor Fuzz will not stop your gun from working. You get fuzz and lint from carrying under normal circumstances. Fuzz will not be a problem. You should get into a good habit and wipe your gun down and inspect it after every carry day. Holsters are also friction fit, you will get rubbing, it normal. When you get this rubbing against the leather, the hard piece of steel/polymer, which is your gun wins every time. The gun is harder and sharper then the leather. This situation is very normal, in fact its part of the break in process. Its called Etching . It is common for the inside of a leather holster to scratch from a single holstering. A smooth leather lined holster will be even more subject to this normal occurrence . After this initial etching the holster will custom fit your handgun.
With that said we know the next question, but I bought the same holster for my XYZ gun and it does not do this, something is wrong with the holster. Please remember, a ll guns are not shaped the same, they have different edges. Some are also buffed out to remove sharp points, a good idea, some are super sharp. We are stuck with the problem of designing around the guns shape, which means all the designs are different and work different because of the shape of that particular gun. The etching process will vary with each different holster and shape of the gun. Remember, it's just a piece of leather and will lose in a fight with a sharp razor.
108 Why do you have different design variations for the Pocket Grabber? When it comes to pocket holsters we do not have an open field to design around, we only have the dimensions of a pants pocket to design around and the odd shape of your gun. That limits what we can and can not do, there is only so much room. But we do state and let you know up front the design varies depending on hand gun model. We know some people are going to miss this, we apologize, but it is in the description of the holster, in plain view.
109 Why does my tuckable inside the pants holster shift when I am wearing it? Thats just normal with a leather tuckable type holster. The whole holster is supported by the flap sewed, riveted, screwed etc etc at the bottom. So any shift up top will affect the bottom and any shift at the bottom will affect the top. Generally speaking the smaller the gun the less this happens because its lighter in weight and shifts less, but it still happens. Also, its the same scenario if you had a clip at each side of the holster, the holster is still supported by the clip attachments at the bottom, only now you have to conceal 2 clips instead of one and shifting at two spots instead of one. We experimented with that design, we do not like it, but it seems to be the current craze at the forums. It's between six and a half dozen, pick what you like.
110 Why does my holster shift when I am wearing it? Outside the pants or inside the pants, every holster will have some shift to it and will want to relocate itself throughout the day, its normal. Whether its one supported with a clip in the middle, at the two sides , two straps at the sides, one strap at each side, one belt loop or two etc etc etc. Just like you adjust your pants and or body parts a few times during the day, you will have to adjust the holster a few times during the day. Remember, you will not escape the fact that you are carrying around a 1lb plus chunk of metal or polymer on you.
111 Should I oil my High Noon Holster? It does not need anything thru its life, its oiled here and then sealed. Our sealer will repel any oil you try to put on the holster. Now some people will never listen and they just have to put something on the
holster, so the only thing we might mention is that when informing customers on applying oils, conditioners, silicones, etc. that they make sure that they do not have a solvent in them. Most leather is made with water based finishes. If a oil or conditioner has a solvent in it, the solvent could destroy the finish." But again the holster needs nothing. Remember oil makes the holster soft, something you do not want.
112 Why does your holster not conceal my gun? Lets get some facts straight before we answer this and we are commenting on our line of holsters only.
We can guarantee you, some people buy the wrong gun for their body type, wear it in the wrong place for concealment purposes and then try and make it work. You can't take a square peg and shove it into a round hole. You need the right tool for the right job and its not an easy task getting it right. Every human body is a different shape and we all have different likes and dislikes. And lets not mention physical injuries we have acquired. What works for your friend may not work for you. This is one of the reasons we have a 30 day money back guarantee. We are glad you are reading this FAQ page, you will get an education here that will help you make a correct choice for you.
113 What are the advantages and disadvantages of pocket carry? Pocket carry is all about cut of trousers and size of pocket for concealment purposes.
114 What are the tie downs on the shoulder rig for? They attach to the holster side of the rig and the magazine side of the rig and then to the belt. People seem to like them, it keeps the rig from swaying, flopping around and helps on the draw keeping the holster in place. The thinking on this is its better to have, then to have not. You can always order them at a later date, but why pay the cost of shipping again, you are paying shipping on the present order. So its like getting one side for free. Most people get them with the rig.
115 How do I get used to carrying a gun inside my pants? It's so uncomfortable!! Most of us have adapted to allot of things in our lives, and most have experienced pain and discomfort at some point. For some, annoyances can easily be overcome, annoyances are outright discomfort, pain and can be sometimes unbearable. Some can completely ignore pain and discomfort until such time as it's no longer an issue and have become adapted. Others believe that adjusting their carry method will suppress or even alleviate the pain or discomfort, and some employ a combination of both. First off let's be honest, the perfect holster does not exist and it's not the holster that uncomfortable, it's the chunk of metal/polymer that you are trying to carry that's the problem. If anything the holster gives you a pillow like effect from the gun. Don't believe us? Just wear the holster with no gun in it, most will have no problem wearing just the holster. Now put the gun in there and it's a different story. So with that said you may have chosen a gun thats to big for you and better, slimmer, smaller choices are available. Also, If your pants were tite to begin with and now trying to get a gun and holster in there will make it even more uncomfortable. What needs to happen is you need to give your body a chance adapt. So how does one get used to conceal carry? Our suggestion is once the holster starts to really hurt, try adjusting the positioning to alleviate the immediate discomfort. Now, tough it out an extra hour or so. If it still hurts take it off for awhile, but not longer than two hours. Now start the process all over again, trying to keep the holster on longer then the last time. This is a way for your body to get accustom to wearing a gun and holster. Each subsequent time this happens, the pain will be less and less until one day it's not there at all. It all depends on one's determination. There are allot of holster options out there, and likely you'll find the perfect one sooner or later. But do not give up so quick, so many people make the mistake of putting on a gun and holster and in an hour they are done. It just does not work like that. Be determined to give it a try and make it work. Thousands of people strap on guns and holsters every day. If they can do it, so can you. There is no secret, it's all getting your body to adapting to the equipment. This solution works and it's from personal experience from all of us here at High Noon.
116 How important is clothing selection? Clothing selection is one of the pieces to the concealment puzzle. With the right clothing, you can conceal quite a bit. If you like to wear fitted trendy outfits, you are going to have a hard time even concealing a pocket gun. In other words form fitted tight clothes are of no help. Some people obsess over finding the closest fitting holster, even at the expense of other factors. However, we have learned that true concealment is obtained as an entire package, not just holster selection. These days, you need a holster that offers a good blend of concealment, size, retention, and speed.
Finding the right cover garment for your body type is the key to concealment. Extra length in the back helps so it doesn't uncover, and roomy around the waist. Prints and patterned shirts help break up the outline of the gun if you do start to print. Darker color shirts conceal better than light. The other consideration is fabric of a cover garment. If going with a polo-type or a t-shirt, the soft, clingy fabrics that drape off you tend to be a little form-fitting and susceptible to printing. Printing is going to happen a bit, just know it and plan ahead. Once you have the right setup, you also need to watch how you move. If picking something up, don't bend over from the waist, or you will risk printing. Squat down and pick it up. This will take a while to get used to but in time will become an ingrained habit. Remember, you are more aware of your printing than anyone else will be. If giving someone a hug, under hook their arms so they don't risk feeling your pistol.
The important thing is that you are aware. Being aware is number one. Think of yourself in rush-hour traffic wanting to switch lanes and get over to make a turn up ahead keep checking your mirrors, side, rear, side, know where you are and where others are. Same with you and your carry, be aware of what's happening whatever you are doing and arrange yourself accordingly. Don't wait until you feel the draft of air on your side blowing in under your shirt and over the grip of your pistol, prepare beforehand. Just feel it and rearrange yourself accordingly before it happens since you already know when it might happen. Head it off at the pass! It will become easier to carry the more you do it and there's really no reason to change the way you carry your gun if its comfortable, but there are many good reasons for you to change your habits that are not helpful when carrying a gun, and these methods can be very discreet, simple and nobody will be the wiser that you are indeed carrying. Make any sense?
117 Why don't you make a bikini type inside the waistband holster, so one holster will fit a family of guns? For an Inside the pants holster, the holster should always cover the gun, the gun should not stick out past the leather or kydex exposing the front site or even worse exposing some of the guns slide. You see so many IWB holsters on the market that do not cover the whole gun, mostly kydex. In our opinion its a big mistake. The reason for this type of holster is its easier to make one bikini holster to fit different size guns in the same family. An example would be the Glock 19,23,26,27,33,17,22 . All these guns for a holster are the same body, except for barrel length. They will all fit the same holster except the longer barrels will stick thru the holster. Will this design get you killed, of course not. Will it Kill your expensive front night sites by leaving it exposed so you could bang it against something or get hung up on the draw, maybe YES. Will it wear a
hole in your pants with extended wear, absolutely YES, Just like any pocket gun will wear a hole in your pocket without a holster. Look at the pictures Click Here, the circled area is where the muzzle of the
gun has rubbed a spot on the pants. This is what we mean by clothing wear. This is something that won't show up until extended wear with the same pair of pants but will rear its ugly head sooner or later.
118 What is a concealment holster trying to achieve? Objectives
To make it simple, if you are a concealed carry permit holder/regular citizen in our opinion you only need a thumbreak or other retention device if you are riding a motorcycle or horseback riding. Other than
that it slows you down and makes things more complicated.
119 Why are the Split Decision, Bare Asset, Mr. Softy, Hidden Ally, Upper Cut or Centerfold holsters so cheap, I heard holsters in this price range are junk? There is an internet myth about inexpensive holsters that they are all junk, designed poorly, just do not work, you get what you pay for and thats why they are priced like that. In most cases made from an inexperienced makers, this information is correct. There is a lot of junk out there that should not even be sold to carry a gun. Some makers/importers/retailers just want to sell something to make a profit without any thought to function and design. In the case of the Mr Softy, Split Decision, Hidden Ally, Center Fold, Upper Cut and Bare Asset we would like to add some thoughts to break the myth of the inexpensive holster from a quality manufacturer like us. Its something many people do not think about. Its what we call, the design intention of a holster. The design intention of a holster has a lot to do with the pricing of the holster when produced by a quality holster maker. What was the holster designed to do, what jobs can it handle, lite use or heavy duty use, one handed reholstering or not etc etc ? The Mr Softy, Split Decision, Hidden Ally, Center Fold, Upper Cut and Bare Asset's design intention was to be as thin and comfortable as possible while still providing a secure platform to hold the weapon. They get the job done in a big way, it gets someone in the IWB game for very little money and the reason is we are working super close on the pricing. Sometimes you just do not want a fat holster that does everything. Less is better in some cases. Now you have to remember when you go that thin with the leather it does not support features like one handed reholstering, site tracks and slide guards. But that was not the intention, the intention was keep it simple. With that said I do not think you can find a better bang for the buck, design wise, materials, service and warranty. Also, its not one size fits all. They were designed around the gun. The tolerances are tight. We do manufacture IWB"s that have all the bells and whistles, these were designed with a different job to do, $90.00 plus price, reinforcement around the mouth of the holster, thick leather, stitched in site tracks, wet molded around the gun you order it for, one handed reholstering ect ect. Anyway I hope this helps some people understand the design intentions of our holsters and what jobs they were made for and why they are priced a certain way.
120 What are the different types of holsters, I am confused? The first thing you should do is visit this page and find out your holster needs. Belt Holsters: The most popular holsters are belt holsters, and they ride on a belt outside the pants on the strong side. Pancake holsters are made of two pieces of material with the gun sandwiched between
them, and they have two or more belt slots like our Slide Guard. "Askins" or "Avenger" type hip holsters are made of one piece of material folded around the gun, and usually have a belt slot on the rear of the holster and a belt loop sewn on the back of it like our Need For Speed and Swift Skin. The pancake style provides more leverage on the gun to pull it close to the body, and thus is a bit more concealable. Paddle holsters: They are held in place with a paddle attached to the holster that slides inside the pants and is held in place by belt tension. Their main virtue is their "quick-on, quick-off" capability. The better ones like our Speedy Spanky feature an adjustable paddle and locking tabs to keep the holster from coming out on a draw. Advantages: 1. Comfort. Disadvantages: 1. Access to the gun while seated is limited.
Small-of-the-back holsters: They carry the gun severely canted at the right center of the back at about a 5 o'clock position like our Bottom Line and Back Skin. It provides an unorthodox but effective form of covert carry, using the natural hollow adjacent to the small of the back as a place of concealment. The radical rake allows for an extremely fast, natural draw, as easy as reaching behind you. This is a task-specific holster and like all task-specific holsters, common sense dictates that there are some obvious situations where its use would not be appropriate, such as when seated in a vehicle, wearing several layers of clothing, etc. In short, any given set of circumstances that would prevent you from reaching behind you. In other situations, however, whether for principal weapon or for backup, this mode of concealed carry may be hard to beat. It all depends on what job you need to get done. Some just hate this form of carry, we think it does have its place, like all holsters in certain situations.
121 Why is the Down Under in black so much money? We do not explain it on the holsters web page because the color has nothing to do with the holsters function and some people may find information like this really boring but the question does come up. Anyway for our company, its the manufacturing process. When dyed black, it adds a lot of extra labor, many extra steps, and a more complicated process then the natural color. More detail below.
122 Can a Glock 19 and Glock 26 be able to use the same holster? It can work, it's what you are willing to sacrifice. You have a choice, get the one for the 26 and put the 19 in and the barrel will stick thru or get the 19 and put the 26 in there and you will have extra leather left over at the end. One way the barrel sticks thru and the front site is exposed and may also catch on the holster on the draw, the other way you are carrying around a qt of milk in a 1 gallon container. Most people like the gun and holster to fit perfect and we never recommend using the same holster for two different guns, as in the example above. It does not make sense to us, it's called concealed carry for a reason. We make specific sizes for a reason, to get the job done correctly and stack the odds in your favor. But it can work as long as you know the pro's and con's. We do not have a big problem with it as long as you know what you are up against. This is true for all guns in the same family. What we mean by family is everything is the same on the gun except barrel length.
123 What type of draw can you expect from a low ride deep concealment holster? We do manufacture holsters that are low ride for deep concealment but the bulk of our inside the pants holsters are manufactured for a combat grip necessary for speed when drawing. The draw on a low ride deep concealment holster would be a two stage draw. Two fingers to pull the gun up because it's in there so deep and then you have to position and shift your whole hand on the gun to draw. The second step gets you into the combat grip position. This type of draw is slower than a combat grip draw, no big deal because your job for the holster may be deep concealment and that's what you need. The speed of the draw is second to the deep cover you require. It all depends what's important to you in a holster and what job you need the holster to perform.
124 What is a non molded holster? A non molded holster means the holster is designed around a gun and not wet molded under pressure to the gun's shape, the pocket is not pre formed as in wet molding, you are forming the pocket as you insert the gun the first few times. Holsters are friction fit so these non molded holsters design tolerances are tight for very good reasons, a break in period will be required, follow the instructions that come with the holster. A side by side example of a non molded and molded holster is here. Click this link.
125 What is a molded to the gun holster? A molded holster to the gun means that the gun you pick from the drop down list when ordering, will be the gun that the holster is molded to. This holster will take the shape of your gun characteristics. No other gun will be able to fit in this holster, only what you ordered it for. A side by side example of a molded and non molded holster are here. Click this link. In the case of an inside the pants holster, molded to the gun of your choice, the molding will be visible on the inside because we use the ruff side of the leather on the outside of the holster and the smooth side for the interior, so you get a true super slick leather lined holster.
126 Why can't one holster accommodate all my needs? Because each day or week you may have different needs. Changes in weather, clothes and what tasks are at hand that day. This concept seems to be a new skill for men to learn and now you may begin to understand your wife or girlfriend a little better. We need to turn to the smarter sex to learn our lesson. Most gals have been doing it all their lives, they dress according to body type, some styles make them look fat, some make them look skinny. It's called working with what you have. Guys you need to learn how to work what you have. Know your body type, the different seasons of the year, your activities for the day. We do not think we have met a gal that gets dressed to look ugly. Your goal is to dress to conceal. You need to learn how to work it, learn to CONCEAL. Learn what size gun you can carry, what body type you have, where are your strong points, where are your weak points. Most of the complaints we get come from just plain lack of knowledge and it's the holsters fault " your holster makes my gun print". We have news for everyone reading this, holsters do not conceal your gun, in fact they make them look BIGGER. You conceal the gun by learning your particular body type, the size of gun you should be carrying, where on your body you can wear the gun, wearing a good gun belt that holds the gun against your body so a piece of paper cannot separate you, and what clothes to wear to conceal properly. Carrying a handgun is going to be life altering. You MUST arrange your clothing and lifestyle around your gun, not the other way around. Carrying a handgun is not supposed to be comfortable. It is supposed to be comforting. Unfortunately, holsters are one of those things where you have to experiment with. Every person is built differently, and you likely aren't going to find your ideal carry rig on your first purchase unless you do your homework. You have to figure out what works for you or not, this is why you hear of the proverbial holster drawer. You actually need that, we call it a holster wardrobe. Depending on the days activates and what you wear, one holster will never do it. Now at this point some of you still did not get the message here, so let's explain it a different way. A nice story always helps. Again we will turn to the smarter of the species, the female. Now most of you have a wife, had a wife, have a girlfriend, had a girlfriend or are somewhere in between right now. But we all have this experience with the opposite sex you now can relate to and understand better when dressing around your gun. They have so many shoes and cloths and that's the same reason we should have so many guns and holsters. It's simple, read on grasshopper, you will never have a
disagreement with your gal if you master what's below and you will learn how to conceal your gun. You know the old saying an eye for an eye, well here at High Noon we say a "shoe for a holster."
But why do you think women have so many shoes!!!! Because these shoes go with this outfit, but not that outfit and these shoes are white and you do not wear white shoes in the winter!!! These shoes are too high for that occasion and these shoes are too low. You just can't wear certain shoes with certain styles. Shoes need to match gals outfits and their outfits need to match their activities and lifestyles. After all, you can't wear open toe sandals if you are going hiking in the canyons now can you? Hmmmm what about Style ? We want to look good. No, we want to look hot. No, we want to look comfortable. See what I mean? The bottom line is that gals need different shoe styles for different looks. Choosing your shoes is an integral part of a woman's day. They have to take into account every type of terrain they will encounter in the next 12 hours, especially as few of us have the luxury of changing during the day. Social situations can often be the minefield of every self-respecting shoe diva. You are having dinner with friends so a pair of equally glam heels are a definite must. But after a couple of bottles of Dom Pérignon champagne, someone suggests moving onto a club. Can you dance in your heels? If not, there is a crisis on hand. Your choices are either to go home (feigning extreme tiredness on account of the fact that you went shopping today) or suffer through the night, get blisters and have to spend the next week in flip flops. The easiest way to avert this crisis is to wear shoes that can handle dinner out, dancing and still be glamorous. We bet allot of you are going to appreciate your gals a whole lot more after knowing what they go thru for you and we did not even go into makeup or clothes in detail. OK so I think you get the picture one holster WILL NOT DO IT. You need a holster wardrobe if you do it right. Don't just strap on the gun at the last minute before leaving the house. Plan your clothing to accommodate your days activities and concealing the firearm. And don't be afraid of a holster wardrobe, its your best friend.
127 Why does the butt of the gun stick out, announcing I have a weapon. T here are four things that need to be in place before we can start to answer this question. 1 You have a good strong reinforced gun belt pushing the gun against your body. Look at our Rock Steady line. 2 The gun and holster has to be placed on a flat part of your body. 3 The holster is riding against your body so a piece of paper cannot separate you. 4 You are wearing proper clothing that conceals the gun and holster.
The belt is the foundation of the carry system, you need a reinforced belt like our Rock Steady line, the belts job is to push the gun against your body so a piece of paper cannot separate you, the holsters job is to hold your gun where you want it, when you need it. Now placement on your body is crucial, it has to be in a spot that conceals well for your body type and you have to be able to get to the gun in a hurry. It HAS to be on a flat part of your body to conceal well, that's the main reason the handle is printing. If it's on your hip of course the handle will print, your gun does have a curved handle to follow the contour of your body. Push it back to the 4 or 5 o'clock position which is a flat part of your body. If it's a straight drop holster, no cant, worn in the appendix position and its printing it's your choice of clothes and placement. At this point it's all up to you after these 4 things are in place. You have to be dressed to conceal. You MUST arrange your clothing and lifestyle around your gun, not the other way around. Don't just strap on the gun at the last minute before leaving the house. Plan your clothing to accommodate concealing the firearm. Also, sometimes it's the users self conscious that is at work (question # 41 may help) and with all the stuff and electronic gizmos people strap to their sides these days, I doubt the general public will notice a thing anyway.
128 What's the difference between your thin Inside the waist band holsters and your Thicker inside waist band holsters and why the huge price difference between them? Its comparing Apples to Oranges, there is a world of difference. But it all depends on what job you want the holster to do and your needs. You need to find that out before you order. Sometimes your job will be simple, the thinner lite duty ones with basic features will take care of that in a big way and then sometimes your job is more complicated and you need the thicker extreme duty ones with all the bells and whistles. You should get both kinds, you will need them in your holster wardrobe. Let's start with the thinner holsters:
These were designed to be as thin and comfortable as possible, along with that you lose features because the leather is thin. No one handed reholstering, no sweat guard, no site track and no fancy molding. We do include a tension screw for adjustment of the draw. These holsters are designed around the gun and cannot be molded cause of the leather being too thin. Do not make the mistake of discounting these holsters because of the low investment, they get the job done in a BIG way. Everyone needs a few of these in there holster wardrobe. An example would be, it could be a real hot and humid day, your clothes may be a bit on the tight side, sometimes clothes never fit the same from week to week anyway. So, all you need is a stable platform to hold the gun in case you need it, sometimes simple is the best way for that day's activities, that days weather, combined with that set of clothes. We find ourselves grabbing these holsters allot here in Florida. Again, you just want a stable platform to hold the gun when needed, this is the ticket to ride. Now for the thicker holsters:
These were designed to be an extreme duty holster with every feature we could throw in. It features a sweat guard to protect you from the gun, the mouth is reinforced right up into the sweat guard for one handed reholstering, stitched in site track so you do not get a ball of leather on your front site when drawing and wet molded to the gun you order for. Also a tension screw for adjustment of the draw. Along with all this, the leather has to be thicker to support everything and they are labor intensive to make. Everyone needs a holster like this in there holster wardrobe, it's also no harder to conceal then the thinner ones if you know what you are doing in that department. It's the Rolls Royce of our inside the waist band line, a true work of art in leather. Great to practice with in front of a mirror drawing and redrawing. Great to bring to a gun class where you will be reholstering many times. It's a comforting feeling to have this holding your gun when you need it. But keep in mind it's a thicker bolder holster, you may not need or want all those features and the investment that goes with it. It all comes down to your needs and the job you have for the gun, if you know them you will get the correct holster the 1st time. Many people just order without doing their home work and finding out what their real needs are after they get the holster. We hear it all the time, we call it the little bears syndrome. This holster is to thin, this holster is to fat, this holster will not one handed reholster, this one will. That's where the Internet myth of the dreaded box of holsters you had to go thru to get what you wanted comes from. When you read that on the forums , to us its pure BS. We are here to tell you, guess what someone did no research. Why waste money on shipping, take your time, research our site, call or E-mail your questions, we are here to help. The choices can be narrowed down to find your needs. And yes you will need a box of holsters, but lets get you a workable wardrobe that fills your needs.
129 What is appendix carry and why should I want to carry appendix carry? Appendix carry is with a 0 cant holster and worn in the 12 to 2 position, it is not for everyone, some will love it and some will hate it. Its popularity has soared since about 2003 when no one heard of it. We started manufacturing holsters for this carry mode back in 1998. In fact no carry mode is for everyone or we would just make one holster and satisfy everyone. The facts are you need to choose what makes sense for you. So here is the information we have and our thoughts. If you have been looking for a good concealed carry concept that gives nothing up in terms of speed of access, this is it guys and gals. Give it a serious try with an open mind. We happen to like this mode very much here at High Noon.
Out Of The Gate Out of the gate it is very fast to draw from and is much faster than the kidney position (4 or 5 o'clock) and it permits a locked wrist. It is faster than any other kind of carry based on physics and geometry alone. The Appendix position is less movement, and is easier to get the gun in action due to less arm motion in the draw. Some people never worry about quick deployment. This is probably because they have never been in an armed robbery where any fast motions indicative of a draw would be met with gun fire. Start to think about that one. You know those guys that fly armed on airplanes in case there is a terrorist on board? They tend toward appendix carry as well because their concealment requirements are quite high and need to get to the gun in a hurry.
Concealing Appendix Carry is easier to conceal than other types of carry.
Should some "really nice person" and there are plenty of them out there, attempt to snatch your weapon from its holster, they "must" do so from the front where you can observe their actions. Also, if you are attempting to defend your weapon from a snatch, you are doing so with your non-dominant hand, leaving your dominant hand "the one you've practiced fighting with all your life" to wage combat with.
Protecting The Gun The Draw When people are drawing their strong side holsters, 3 to 5 position, few do it without an upper torso shift, either slightly forward to deal with the holster's cant, or slightly toward their non-dominant side to facilitate clearing the high-ride holster's lip. It's an exaggerated movement and unnatural.
When people are drawing form the appendix position, there is no need for any torso shift. It can be done from a perfectly upright position, from a crouch, from a seat, from one's back. The only position that offers restriction is from the prone position. If you are prone (lying face down), you are already in trouble, so if you didn't draw your weapon as you were going prone, it means you are down and relatively helpless. But if you are down and relatively helpless, the bad guy can more easily get to your weapon if it is on the strong side. To take your appendix weapon, they must get under your body and flip you over.
Sometimes people that are extremely overweight have a problem with appendix carry. Our job is to get you the right holster that can win a gunfight decisively and not to criticize your eating habits. Remember we told you it's not for everyone, even in shape people sometimes do not like this carry mode. It may not work for your body type, so move on to something that does work, we have other options.
What We Make We make two kinds, a low ride for deep concealment and a high ride/combat grip for quicker access to the gun. Height of the holster from the belt line is a compromise low ride or high ride. Two ways to go here both have drawbacks and both have positives.
Look at these: Public Secret Series - Extreme Duty Combat Grip
130 Why don't you have your logo stamped onto your inside the pants holsters with clips? We think it's not needed, it's a concealment holster. Why call attention to some kind of logo stamped onto the front of a clip, especially on the tuckable holsters where the clip actually shows, talk about an attention grabber. It's better to fly under the radar. In this case less is better and having the element of surprise is a big advantage to someone carrying a concealed gun. The regular people may not notice but we have had many customers tell us the clips with logos sometimes open up strange conversations, the bad guys are well schooled and are looking for it. Our clips do not carry any company logo, they are plain. The plain clip against a black belt fools the eye, you do not even notice it. In other words let's give them nothing to talk about. Its not about bling, its about going unnoticed.
131 Why does your pocket holster tip over, not stay steady and not fit in my pockets? This is not a huge problem but it's a problem that does exist. Do not worry we have a fix at the end of this. First, it's not the holster, it's the design of your pants pockets. The problem will be in how your pockets are cut and the fact that most pants do not have the same pocket design. Most are cut at an angle, so things can drop down in them. Not good for carrying a holster and gun. They do not care about us gun toting folks when they design the pockets. Another sore point is the fact that some pockets are very shallow. If you attempt to sit down or even bend over, all the small things like your change fall right out. Have you ever seen a guy sit down and have stuff falling out like that? Now how are we going to get a holster and gun to sit correctly in that shallow angled pocket. The best pockets are ones that are cut square at the bottom and are deep. Another thing to remember before you buy pants, check the pockets. You can work with the deep angled ones but the shallow
ones are unworkable. If you really want to pocket carry with your setup and your pockets are not working, just bring your pants to a We have found that it pays to look to well-tailored men's pants for ideas in good pocket design. They are used to pockets that carry all their necessities, to pockets that last, to pockets that don't distort their clothes so that you can see the outline of the wallet from down the block. Take a peek inside a high quality suit to see what you've been missing.
132 Why does your pocket holster print? The holster does not make the gun print, it's the clothes you are wearing. It's just a matter of learning how to dress for concealment. If you are wearing tight jeans whatever you put in there will print, even your one and only friend below the waist will print. The holsters job is to be a stable platform to hold the gun when you need it. Holsters do not conceal guns , in fact they make the BIGGER. First off here, nobody is looking at the bulge in your pocket, really. Has anyone ever come up to you on the street and said, gee, your pocket looks awfully full, while pointing at it, and say, what ya got in there? I don't think so, forget about it. For one you may be to paranoid about it, so you have a budge in your pocket, so what. No one is looking at it and who is to say what it is. Do you go around looking at other people's crouch area's trying to figure out what they have, of course not!! With that said, being mindful of printing is normal even for experienced carriers, being a bit paranoid when you first start carrying is also normal. Eventually you will become used to it and honestly forget it's
there. When you first start carrying, it feels like every hockey, soccer mom and store employee has spotted you, when in reality, probably none of them did.
133 Why don't you have different color clips for your Inside The Pants Holsters? Now you will never be able to duplicate our finish, thats a professional finish, but you can get a real good one out of this process and you can keep it looking new whenever you want. Click here for the process.
134 What do you think of the new no clip, no strap compression type inside the pants holsters? Lets explain them first so everyone can get a better understanding of the product. These holsters surfaced somewhere around 2007. Sometimes called a compression type holster in the industry or on forums. Most times a rubberized material is used on the outside of the holster to help keep it in place. (Hey we wonder where that idea came from? We were the first in the industry to use a rubberized material on a pocket holster back in 1997.) They use no clip or straps for the attachment to the belt. The pressure from the belt holds this holster in place. With the gun in the holster turned upside down, the gun will fall out, it has zero retention. It will not support one handed re-holstering, pull the gun out and the holster will collapse under the pressure from the belt. (That's not really a problem, we sell inside the pants holsters that do that. Some people do not require that feature.) They seem to get rave reviews on forums and it seems most people do not have a problem with this style of holster. But there are threads on forums documenting some negative experiences with this style. As time goes on you will see more. Our opinion is, this is an accident waiting to happen. Having nothing but resistance from the belt, holding the holster in place, it's just a matter of time before it falls out and hits the floor or pops out at the wrong time. It should not be expected to serve the same purpose as a good inside the pants belt holster. If it goes in your pants, you may as well be responsible and secure it to a good gun belt. We see no need to try to turn what is a pocket holster into an inside the pants holster. Even situations as simple as answering the call of nature and leaving the gun at the scene of relief happen more often than we care to admit with a holster that has no attachment point to the belt. To us, it's a gimmick holster, (In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries. However, the special feature is typically thought to be of little relevance and use.) just like the pager holsters were in the 90's, now transformed into cell holsters in 2000. It's not for serious use. We just cannot see off duty law enforcement, FBI, CIA, special forces, homeland security or "anyone in the know" using and relying on this type of holster. We cannot see any credible school teaching what the criminal justice system calls "judicious use of deadly force" putting their stamp of approval on it for students taking a class. If we thought it was a viable, safe way to carry a loaded gun we would put the design into our line. (Just to be clear, there is no patent on the design, its public domain) We think carrying a gun is a privilege and with that privilege comes great responsibility. We would like not only you to be safe but the innocent people around you that had no say in the equipment you picked to carry your gun.
135 Your inside the pants holsters with clips are hurting my hands why did you make it so stiff? We made it so you will never have a problem with that holster coming off, no how, no way. That clip is rock solid, extreme duty, over the top and we designed it that way, it's not coming off. End of story! That clip is on duty in some of the toughest places in the U.S. and the world. Rest easy knowing that you have the same equipment as law enforcement, border patrol, home land security, FBI, CIA and Special Forces. Here a tip on working that clip. A common mistake some people make getting the holster on and off is putting your two fingers on each side of the clip and pulling upwards. Do not do that, it works like that, but an easier way is take your two fingers, keep them together and put them under the middle of the clip, this spreads the weight of the clip across your fingers. Now just pull up. This is a better and less painful way to work the heavy tension on that clip.
136 Your holster makes my gun rust but my friend has the exact same setup and he gets no rust. Why is my holster defective? Holsters do not make guns rust. Environmental things like weather, humidity come into play here. But most of all every individual has a slightly different body chemistry and generate different degrees of heat. Some people sweat a lot while other people sweat very little. It can be the result of dietary or hereditary conditions. Sometimes both. This means that when measured very precisely everyone has their own personal PH level. As a result, some peoples perspiration is slightly basic, some neutral and some acidic. We have worked with people who touch a piece of bright steel and literally within 60 seconds a bright orange looking fingerprint starts to appear on the surface. We have seen this in a number of people over the years. So, there are people who have varying degrees of acidity or alkalinity in their perspiration. It's not good. it's not bad. It just is. We are all different A perfect example below a freshly polished piece of steel that we use here. The person touched it to bring over to where it belongs. An hour later thats what it looks like.
Now, take a gun-holster combination and it gets little particles of dust, dirt, or lint on it. Think of your house here, you do not blow dust into the house but dust is everywhere, just look at your computer
screen and keyboard. OK, so these particles are generally hygroscopic, meaning they can attract and hold moisture or in other words it means the ability or tendency of a material to take up moisture readily from the surrounding air or other moist materials.Couple that with the possibility that a person may have a slightly acid PH and I guarantee that you will see some surface rust on the gun over time if not wiped down daily after wearing.
137 Why don't you make different size clips instead of just the 1- 1/2 ? Most people wear a 1-1/2 belt and it would be impossible to stock another size clip like a 1-1/4. A 1-1/2 belt is industry standard and gives much more support than the 1-1/4. The only reason you wear a 1-1/4 belt is you may be in a suit or dress cloths and cannot wear the 1-1/2.
138 Why don't you make a holster with a magazine holder attached? Most people will never been able to develop the dexterity necessary to draw right handed, fire empty or near empty, then reach across with their left hand and retrieve a magazine on the right side. (Lefties just reverse the scenario) The cross over from the weak side hand to the strong side of the body is awkward, slow and time consuming. It could it be done. But even with a lot of practice it still remains awkward and time consuming compared to retrieving a magazine with the weak hand from the weak side. That is just a long reach for anyone, add some girth to the situation and that scenario gets really ugly fast. This is one of those Gimmick holsters. (In marketing language, a gimmick is a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries. However, the special feature is typically thought to be of little relevance and use.) ( And in this case can get you killed if you need the reload.) It's not for serious use. These holsters are best saved for those times when you are not going to rely on your weapon for self defense like plinking or even hiking where you may just want a gun for Bobcat, Bear and Snakes.
Weapon retention simply means maintaining possession and control of your concealed carry handgun at all times during confrontation, physical activity, or just living everyday life. Considerations should be given to the carry location, type of holster used, clothing and anticipated activity while carrying concealed, with both accessibility and retention in mind. No two people's needs are exactly the same. There is a fine line between having your gun accessible and ensuring retention, but with a little thought and application, a viable compromise can be found.
140 Why doesn't my revolver holster fit as good as my automatic holster in your soft line? The soft line consists of Mr Softy, Hidden Ally, Bare Asset, Split Decision, Upper Cut and Center Fold. They are non molded holsters and are friction fit. Our designs are tight in this line for very good reasons. It is a common complaint to have a break in problem with the revolvers and the good news is its fixed easily. Its a simple break in problem and an understanding of the extreme shape of a revolver when compared to an auto is in order. Let us explain. What many people do not understand a flat auto like a Glock is not at all shaped like a revolver. You will never get the same smooth in and out feeling with a revolver. Revolvers are bumpy, auto's are sleek, smooth and level. Revolvers have such a unique shape that changes from thin, to FAT around the cylinder and then thin by the barrel. It causes a problem when you put the gun in these types of inside the pants holsters. As you insert the gun in the holster, you now are pushing the revolvers cylinder up high against the metal clip, which is on the outside of the holster. This is the reason it does not seat during the first few times. All you have to do is hold the holster in one hand and push and twist with the other hand on the gun. It's just a matter of you using some muscle and PUSH AND TWIST and PUSH AND TWIST to seat the gun in the holster, real hard.
141 What does the term ride of the holster mean. (High Ride, Low ride)? The "ride" of a holster refers to the vertical height at which the gun is carried relative to the belt line. A normal-ride holster will have the trigger near the belt line. A high-ride holster will have the trigger above
the belt. A deep-riding holster will have the trigger below the belt. The ride of the gun, combined with the holster's cant will largely determine how comfortably a holster carries a particular gun for you. High ride or Low ride, there is no correct answer, everyone is different.
142 What is more important weapon retention or concealment? They both work together and both are important. We do not think there is a person out there that's wants to show the world they are carrying a gun or worse have the gun taken away from them. One of the first steps to ensure weapon retention is exercising effective concealment. If you are the only one that knows that you have a gun on your person, then there is little likelihood of having the gun removed from its carry location by another person. The clothes that we wear need to afford adequate concealability without attracting attention to ourselves. That should start with wearing something that is contemporary in style while matching the prevailing weather conditions. Wearing clothes that don't match in either type or color, or wearing a rain jacket on a warm sunny day is sure to attract the attention of the most oblivious observer. Balance of the carried equipment is important as well, in the way our clothes fit on our bodies. Too much weight on one side or the other of a pocket carry will cause the garment to hang at an odd angle or swing asymmetrically during movement which may attract the attention of the astute observer. Carrying in a location that requires constant touching or checking is a dead giveaway to the casual observer that you are in possession of some equipment that isn't a regular part of your everyday wear. No matter what or where you carry, your goal is to look and act as if you had nothing but your hands and good looks to fend off an attacker. Blending with the rest of the population is a good thing, especially when carrying a gun concealed. Constant vigilance in the awareness of where our concealed carry weapon is located at all times is important, especially if the potential of inadvertent separation exists.
143 Why is leather so expensive? An overweight animal is similarly unlikely to make great leather. The animal will yield a thick hide, but it will be loaded with fat. This will come out during processing, to be replaced by additives, but the final product is likely to be too porous to make the top grade and will have a spongy feel. This will affect its ultimate strength and the leather may be more prone to stretching and tearing. Many leather manufacturers around the world prefer older animals that have been grass fed. Those raised on feedlots, grain fed for maximum growth and early slaughter are unlikely to produce the same quality. Also, manufacturing leather gun holsters is a time-consuming, labor-intensive business, and each hide must be examined and each holster must be cut individually. These factors also contribute to its higher cost, but keep in mind, a good leather gun holster can last up to seven times longer than most fabric holsters. For many applications, leather simply has to look good, not so with gun holsters. Appearances aside, it fulfills a vital function and failure could result in serious injury. You are paying a high price because its the best material in the world. Hopefully you have picked a reputable artist in leather to make your gear.
144 Are there different qualities or grades of leather? Yes, the tannery has many grades to choose from, Grade A,B,C or 1,2,3. Every tannery calls it something different but it all means the same. Leather is a natural commodity and is graded much like a diamond. The fewer imperfections on the hide, the rarer it is to acquire. Therefore, if there is less supply, there will be a higher cost. The main determining factor in the quality of leather is determined by the origin of the leather. The main determining factor in the cost of leather is by the quality of the beast, supply and demand, and not by where the hides are tanned. The hotter climate, (southern hemisphere) with the greatest extremes, in conjunction with the animals being raised on an open range, produce hides that are more weathered. They tend to show more scars, blemishes, defects and insect bites that must be mechanically sanded or buffed and cosmetically altered or repaired off before the can be sold. They are less supple and soft but are much more abundant. Hides from the northern hemisphere (cooler climate) are less abundant and typically are higher in quality due to the climate in which these animals live. The cooler climates of Northern places, in conjunction with the animals being raised in pens or pastures, produce hides with the least amount of imperfections. Also factor in the standard of living for the breathing beast, and the way in which the cowhide is processed. This information is neither good nor bad, it just is. Both hides will do a great job, it just depends what you are making with the leather. With that said there is no U.S or international grading scale. No governing body that watches what goes on. Terms such as "Grade A" or "First Grade" don't mean anything in particular. The nastiest piece of leather on the planet can be stamped "A Grade" if a manufacturer so chooses. The bottom line is you have to trust who you are buying your gear from. There is a greater quantity of cattle produced on the open ranges of the world, creating a greater supply. Therefore, these hides are less costly.
Leather is the strongest natural material known to man. It has properties no other material has. Tensile strength Tear strength Elongation Flexibility
Endurance Moisture Absorption
Yes, direct exposure to ultra violet sun rays will cause fading and discoloration. Also it will discolor from just the exposure to the air. It's called oxidation. The surface of the leather will develop a patina after years of exposure to the air. A freshly-cut apple turns brown, a bicycle fender becomes rusty and a copper penny suddenly turns green. They are all examples of the process called oxidation. Oxidation is defined as the interaction between oxygen molecules and all the different substances they may contact, from metal to living tissue. Sometimes oxidation is not such a bad thing, as in the formation of super -durable anodized aluminum. Other times, oxidation can be destructive, such as the rusting of an automobile or the spoiling of fresh fruit. When it comes to leather, its pure art work by mother nature, a thing of beauty.
147 What is the difference between a lined holster and an unlined holster? As far as the user goes it is personal preference and what they want from their gun leather. Unlined rigs are traditional, simple and effective. They are less expensive as they require less time creating and will last for generations. The Premium fully lined holsters are definitely the top-of-the-line. They are lined with a smooth synthetic (man made) suede that is glued down, has a handsome stitch line that is lock stitched on every seam
around the entire holster and offers a rich looking finish enhancing the natural characteristics of our premium cowhide. It's got more "bling" then unlined and the lining helps slow down holster wear. Fully lined holsters will last for generations. If you have some experience carrying concealed, you already know "looking good" is part of the game. Having a high quality holster to go with your training and your
favorite guns is important. These holsters have the distinction you would expect from a finely made piece of art and if you are proud of the guns your holstering, why not show it off with high a quality High Noon Holster.
148 Are there unique variations in each product you make? Yes, while we always strive for consistency, as with any handmade leather product there are slight and unique variations in each of our goods. From stitching to snap placements to embossing patterns, to range marks, each product is unique, and are "one of a kind" no two items will ever be exactly the alike. As a customer you may not notice, you may never have two exact holsters side by side. But for us it's easy to see the slight differences mother nature gives to this magical material.
149 Is my gun more likely to rust in a leather holster? No it will not, if that were true no one would use a leather gun holster. In fact the opposite is true, leather is the Rolls Royce of material for guns. Leather is a natural product, so it does absorb moisture, even if it is sealed, it still will absorb. Thats a fact, but it's a good fact for gun owners. The same porous structure that allows leather to absorb moisture also allows leather to dissipate moisture slowly for a cooling effect during warm weather. When there is less moisture available, the same fibrous structure that once held water now holds air for an insulating effect. Accordingly our leather was created to work year round for you.
150 Is it safe to use my credit card or debit card on your site? Your credit card information is inputted directly into a secure server. Your credit card number is not stored on our website or any customer database. The transfer is done via a secure 128 bit encryption algorithm to ensure a safe secure transaction. Ordering with High Noon Holsters is very secure. Using your credit card on line through our handy and secure E-commerce ordering system is as safe as buying at your local department store. All credit card information is encrypted and transmitted without risk using our Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) protocol.
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151 Is bullhide better then cowhide? So lets review. Male cows may be referred to as: So lets review. Female cows may be referred to as: OK if you got all that, lets continue. The latest trend among "some" holster and gun belt makers to try and get the edge over the competition is labeling the hide to be bull hide and that it has magical properties associated with it. (Remember that's a intact adult male, you know with his private parts still there, untouched) And lets be fair here, the tannery may very well have told them these are males? So, the maker of such products is either smart as a fox or just plain dumb, take your pick. We think the only one who really knows the sex is the one who slaughtered the animal and we are sure they separate males from females before they are put to rest. And even if they do separate the males from the females, if your order is for bullhide ( the male) is kinda short, well then you may be getting some females without knowing it. Did you ever play telephone at school when your were a child? So the slaughter house told the tannery and the tannery told the belt maker and the belt maker told you the consumer they are male hides. It makes perfect sense. How you coming along, following OK. It is the web, all you need is a utility knife and a computer and you are a belt and holster manufacturer. It's always a special time here at High Noon when the leather shipment comes in. We can always tell the difference between a Bull (intact adult male), Ox, (castrated adult male), Steer,(castrated male), Heifer (either borne one or
no calf ) or a cow (the female). It's so easy!!!! All you have to do is look at their private parts. So if we want to sell you bullhide (the male with the magical properties) , those go on the top shelve and if we want to sell you cowhide (the female) those go on the top In the United States vegetable tanned cattle hides have always been traditionally referred to as cowhide. In the livestock industry, cows (female) are usually given over to milk production. Males (bulls) are neutered, fattened, slaughtered for meat, and the hides go for tanning. You only need a couple of bulls (males) to impregnate all the females so the rest get sent off to be made into hamburgers and steaks, who needs them lets eat um up!! Remember your lesson here when you buy meat, you need to know if its a cow, bull, ox or heifer. Just ask the someone at the counter, of course they will know. Thats common knowledge. So, the leather from these animals, which constitutes about 99.9% of vegetable tanned cattle derived leather, should be referred to as bull hide or steer hide, rather than cowhide. They are mostly males correct. The low down is, it's all in a name. Cowhide, bullhide, steer hide, who cares? Except for the fact that some seek to market and endow their products with special magical properties based on the fact that they use bullhide. Well here's the news. Knowingly or otherwise, Everyone uses bull hide and a bit of everything else! Call it cowhide, call it steer hide, call it bullhide, it's all the same thing. It's a piece of tanned leather. We always wonder when those hides come in here, are they males or females, neutered or not. We have been looking and can't find any private parts to tell them apart. You know we do not want any commingling of the male (the Bull or the Steer) or female hides (the Cow) in our factory. And remember those slaughter houses may not mark them, so the tanneries can't mark them, so we could tell what the heck they really are. Well , we feel just so taken advantaged of , how bout you? So in closing, you could get a cowhide, bullhide, steer hide, or ox hide product from us. Pick which one really does it for you. Don't forget we could always slip in the Heifer on you!!
152 How do I store my leather holsters? Remember that leather is a natural material and likes to breath, It should never be stored in sealed plastic because it encourages the growth of mildew and bacteria and will ruin the leather. If anything place them in a breathable enclosure. Always store leather in a cool, dry place away from heat. A dark closet that is neither too dry nor too humid is an ideal storage place.
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